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On 2008-03-27 22:11:05, londonlad123 wrote:
Uiq3 is as good as dead at the moment.
P1 is still selling well and more than previous UIQ phones... And wait till G700 and G900 arrives... The sales are gonna be really good... The reasons being price and features... How many times do I need to mention this??????
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Posted: 2008-03-27 22:47:07
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One interesting feature(at least for me) is the implementation of JSR-248 MSA API which was seen on
A200 platform. which speaks to the integration of A200 features to UIQ 3.3 and higher. and will also mean that K850 successor would likely be UIQ and at the same time will bear all the software goodies of it's predecessor without issues/incompatibility.
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Posted: 2008-03-28 02:16:03
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Does this automaticaly support Demand Paging when paired with Symbian 9.5? Or more code rework is needed?
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Posted: 2008-03-28 05:51:00
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No, it'll be integrated in the OS from v9.3. So any program running on it will benefit to some extent. (But it won't automatically fix any memory- issues with programs that don't destroy the objects it uses when it's done with them, and so on. And a program would need the same amount of memory when it's picked up all the resources it references. So.. more ram at startup? And more ram for apps. Some performance- hit because of overhead, but not much... I think, anyway.
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Posted: 2008-03-28 06:12:59
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I thought Demand Paging is basically a Symbian v9.3 and above feature.
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Posted: 2008-03-28 06:17:57
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@Nipsen
I really don't know where you are getting your information from as it is wholly inaccurate and if even if half of what you spout was true. That makes it really amazing that a device with so many problems has managed to capture the imagination of so many and sell 1 million plus units per month for so long then isn't it.
@hgatum
Well no one yet knows just how well the G series will sell but for many in mid 2008 a smart phone without HSDPA really isn't that great. It may well attract previous non smart phone users from SE but then that will be at the expense of other SE Series phones as for current smart phones users i would imagine a large proportion will want HSDPA in their smart phone and taht may rule it out for many.
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Posted: 2008-03-28 07:05:01
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@Nipsen
Yeah only a little difference in performance is what I expect from Symbian 9.3 and not much... But atleast some improvement is better than nothing...
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Posted: 2008-03-28 07:16:13
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On 2008-03-28 07:05:01, Dogmann wrote:
@hgatum
Well no one yet knows just how well the G series will sell but for many in mid 2008 a smart phone without HSDPA really isn't that great. It may well attract previous non smart phone users from SE but then that will be at the expense of other SE Series phones as for current smart phones users i would imagine a large proportion will want HSDPA in their smart phone and taht may rule it out for many.
Marc
You are right Marc... We will have to wait and see how well G series sell... But Marc not everyone is a techie like you, me and many others and the g series is more focused towards an average consumer... The lack of HSDPA is not such a huge problem for G700 as you think... Please try to understand what I mean...
Also why don't you read the mobile review's G700 review Marc??? Even if you read the positioning, design and conclusion part that will be enough... May be then you will have a better idea about the G700...
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Posted: 2008-03-28 07:29:37
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@hgautam
Consider that by the time the G700 releases the N82 would have dropped by about 20-40$ at least in India making it about 20$ more than the G700 and similarly priced or even cheaper than the G900, if I were buying a phone at that time and had to choose between these I'd buy the N82 hand down, I like getting value for my money and so does everybody else, unless they're fanboys. Just because eldar says something that maybe valid for the Russian market does'nt mean that it the same worldwide.
Also he forgets that if somebody wants a cheap touch screen you;ve got the Motorola ROKR E6 and MING which sells in quite large numbers in India and its over 100$ cheaper than the expected release price of the G700, also the P1i is at that price point at the moment, people would rather buy an AF camera rather than the non AF camera, the screen on the P1i is bigger as well, I agree they're aimed at different segments but they;re going to have an overlap here.
Eldar also forgets that the HTC TOuch is in a similar price range and is commanding reasonable sales. If somebody wanted to buy a touch screen, and since its riding o nthe iPhone wave it might even tempt people from buying the G700 with its keypad. And people want stylish phones as well, the G700 is quite plain in my opinion.
I'm not saying the G700 will fail, in all probability it wont, but you're looking at things through rose tinted glasses.
And regarding UIQ to be dead thats a load of rubbish, I know of a lot of work going on at Moto with regards to UIQ, a lot of teh work force has been diverted from LJ to UIQ.
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Posted: 2008-03-28 07:46:13
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Knowing SE we wont see any devices announced with 3.3 until at least Q2 09.
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Posted: 2008-03-28 10:20:32
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