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iksplusipsilon Posts: 303

Finally, civilised and smart discussion... :-) @AD You are spot on as far as I am concerned !

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Posted: 2008-05-27 20:44:08
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koto Posts: > 500

My P1 is so good that I decided to keep it until 2009. Only if P5 comes with improved procesor maybe I change my mind but for now P1 works like a charm. I started to create power point presentations on it (with a new quick office), watch you tube (fantastic), and do every business task I need (with P5 new procesor I would expect more speed and handle of much larger files), so there is no point to go to wm or anything else (Nokia is out of question as their flagship is mere multimedia phone).
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Posted: 2008-05-27 22:01:13
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On 2008-05-27 19:16:51, AD wrote:

On 2008-05-27 18:16:00, 701 wrote:
Wrong world pal:)


No offence but I have to say that sounds like the very defeatest, led by the nose attitude that lazy manufacturers and developers are counting on ...
With the P1, however, I think Nipsen's hit the nail on the head by saying that it wouldn't take much to turn the platform around in terms of viability, underpowered though it is in my opinion

You can call me a fantacist if you like, but without dreamers we wouldn't have any of the technology that's so ubiquitous today...

(oh god - I need to get out more )

[ This Message was edited by: AD on 2008-05-27 18:34 ]


@AD:none taken.That's your point. I didn't give up on hope and I have to say, sometimes, I am a dreamer, too.But then,I wake up: I'm realist, AD> And I look around and I see how stuff works. The designers want one thing, they advance the project to management which cuts off half of the features because or the marketing, margins, profits and economics AND engineering. The, from what's left of the product goes to engineers where the whole products gets another cut. And so on...
I'm pretty sure you know what I mean.
@Nipsen: and still, they don't do it.Did you ever wonder why?It might me because the management doesn't know how important these bugs are and what happens to the product?Or maybe cuz only 20% of the customers are like us,power-users? Or maybe cuz the money is so tight that they can't (don't want) sustain the cost? Whatever the reason, it's not done because the product works. P990i didn't and they discontinued it. Unfortunately,this is how it works.

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Posted: 2008-05-28 08:42:17
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hosehead Posts: 5


On 2008-05-27 17:37:58, myth® wrote:

On 2008-05-27 12:26:07, hosehead wrote:
And yes, it has the latest firmware.


...which is ?

GW or branded version ?



R9K009

Non-Branded

Well it appears that I am in the minority here with so many people happy with their P1. This makes me believe that there might be a problem with my particular set up. I don't know how people can say their phone is fast though. it takes over 7 seconds to launch messaging on a freshly booted machine with no other apps running. There is no feedback either so you really aren't sure if the app launched or not.

But the one thing that I still disagree with is when people claim the OS doesn't suck. It does. Example: sometimes the "close" button is the return arrow at the top right. sometimes it's a little "x". sometimes it's a "done" soft button. sometimes something else. From a user standpoint, this inconsistency leads to errors and/or slowed use. This type of inconsistency is all throughout the OS and it is not good for the user.
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Posted: 2008-05-28 09:25:50
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Well it appears that I am in the minority here with so many people happy with their P1. This makes me believe that there might be a problem with my particular set up. I don't know how people can say their phone is fast though. it takes over 7 seconds to launch messaging on a freshly booted machine with no other apps running. There is no feedback either so you really aren't sure if the app launched or not.


Just made a test.Mine starts completely in 4 seconds but I have: 398 sms in Inbox and 293 in Sent, 3 separate e-mail accounts: Gmail hold 4 emails in inbox and some tens in Sent, Y! something like that too and Sync Folder 0. Which satisfies me. But why don't you keep you messaging in background all the time? You have lots of memory left!



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Posted: 2008-05-28 09:44:13
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myth® Posts: > 500

@hosehead

R9K009 is your phone sw version which is irrelevant.

When we talk about fw versions we always refer to the pda/organizer version, and yes yours is R6G04 (the latest).

And in order to check if you have a version which is customized for your country or by your operator, you have to check the CDA.

All this information is located in the same place:

On your standby screen go to More > Status.
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Posted: 2008-05-28 10:01:59
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AD Posts: > 500

@701

I am fully aware that in order to 'productize' a design concept in a capitalist market, it has to go through several lavers of filtering, some would say 'refinement' others 'watering down', in order to satisfy the final decision makers (generally accountants at heart). I do, however , think that even such a structure can be infused with a culture of excellence rather than one of adequacy. After all, there are already prime examples of this working succesfuly (Ferrari, Bang & Oluffsen, Dyson, Rolls Royce, Apple, et al). I totaly agree that the market for high end smartphone is truly limited to busy buisiness bodys & gadget fanatics, so let's have a truly premiere product that reallisticaly reflects the state of the art.

I for one would hapily pay a premium for a device that came with such a caveat.
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Posted: 2008-05-28 11:15:44
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korbindallis Posts: > 500

Hi just want to add that having used a P990i and never had problems with it even during calls only thing it restarted after a week or so which was fine by me i was going to get P1i but upon hearing the new Paris P5? What ever its called is going to be around euro 350-400 i am thinking of getting that instead after 3 or 4 months of its sale which means christmas time

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Posted: 2008-05-28 11:46:37
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arvinlad Posts: 447


On 2008-05-27 17:50:02, RLP06 wrote:
I want it like the rest of my sony ericsson phones.

I want it on silent so I can see if I get missed calls in the morning, but I want my alarm to wake me up.... seriously, if I don't want it to wake me up... I wouldn't bother setting an alarm... I think alarms should override silent mode... it does on ALL regular SE phones... So i think it is a flaw...


Sorry I wasn't sure if you were joking or not

You do know that this phone has 4 different volume controls???

Multimedia
Alarms
Ringtone
Message alerts


AND individual on/off for vibrating alert for every option.

You MUST be able to tailor it so that you get whatever sounds/vibrations you want and to silence those you don't want

Top left hand corner of screen - little down arrow --> Menu of:
New
Connections
Volume
Time
Lock keys


HTH

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Posted: 2008-05-28 11:49:30
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RLP06 Posts: 342

@arvinlad, thanks for the advice...

I actually sold mine, because of the alarm problem and also because it didn't have 850 band (I had this phone when I lived in North America). Now that I've moved to the UK, maybe I'll pick one up again if I can get it cheap
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Posted: 2008-05-28 11:54:32
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