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MattGB Posts: 17


On 2008-07-15 10:41:48, arvinlad wrote:
At the end of last year I bought a month old P1 with TomTom 6 Nav and a GPS unit for £175 from ebay - it was perfect...

Having sung it's praises particularly with all the new mods and hacks continually to a mate who was considering aa G900 he went to look on ebay and ended up buying the same thing - unused if I remember correctly inc TomTom 6 and GPS unit for £135!!!

You can't tell me thats not value for money!

You will not need a data connection with TomTom 6 Nav as stated previously and you can set it for walking mode. It's not perfect... but it way ahead of whatever comes in second place

IMHO - of course



Well, that sounds ideal then!
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Posted: 2008-07-15 15:01:25
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makbil Posts: > 500

There are 3 navigation programs that work on UIQ3 devices with 128 MB RAM. I'm not counting those that need active data connection to work.

TomTom and Garmin both have UIQ3 versions and work on P990 as well, Sygic Drive needs 128 MB RAM.

All 3 programs have maps that you pre-install on your memory card so no data communication is needed during use. Also, all these programs have the option to calculate routes for different cars or pedestrian use.

TomTom seems to provide newer maps for their version 7 software which is not available for UIQ3 devices, so you will be stuck with older maps with little chance of updates.
Sygic Drive seems to have good maps but it's relatively new and I can't really comment on long term use but the user interface and performance seems to be good in the limited time I have tested it.
Garmin really lives up to their reputation, their UIQ3 program that you can download from their site works well on all UIQ3 devices and they have the newest maps of all 3 programs.
Good luck with having so many choices for the iPhone. An internal GPS will also put severe pressure on your battery life, so I do not recommend it.

Go for the G900 + Sirfstar III BT GPS and Garmin but take a look at the Sygic reviews as well.

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P990i: A mistake, a curse and a disgrace So I lowered my expectations and settled for a P1i.

[ This Message was edited by: makbil on 2008-07-16 13:00 ]
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Posted: 2008-07-16 13:45:56
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MattGB Posts: 17


On 2008-07-16 13:45:56, makbil wrote:
There are 3 navigation programs that work on UIQ3 devices with 128 MB RAM. I'm not counting those that need active data connection to work.

TomTom and Garmin both have UIQ3 versions and work on P990 as well, Sygic Drive needs 128 MB RAM.

All 3 programs have maps that you pre-install on your memory card so no data communication is needed during use. Also, all these programs have the option to calculate routes for different cars or pedestrian use.

TomTom seems to provide newer maps for their version 7 software which is not available for UIQ3 devices, so you will be stuck with older maps with little chance of updates.
Sygic Drive seems to have good maps but it's relatively new and I can't really comment on long term use but the user interface and performance seems to be good in the limited time I have tested it.
Garmin really lives up to their reputation, their UIQ3 program that you can download from their site works well on all UIQ3 devices and they have the newest maps of all 3 programs.
Good luck with having so many choices for the iPhone. An internal GPS will also put severe pressure on your battery life, so I do not recommend it.

Go for the G900 + Sirfstar III BT GPS and Garmin but take a look at the Sygic reviews as well.

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P990i: A mistake, a curse and a disgrace So I lowered my expectations and settled for a P1i.

[ This Message was edited by: makbil on 2008-07-16 13:00 ]



Thanks Makbil! That was just the sort of useful summary I was looking for!
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Posted: 2008-07-16 21:03:40
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whatsucka Posts: > 500

i want to know how will the SE GPS headset or the GPS in C702, W760 work if theres no data connection?? is like when u in a forest where theres no fone reception at all... how can the GPS help u find a way out??

in USA theres many highway have no fone reception... is it pointless if i get a SE GPS then getting a "real" GPS on the car??
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Posted: 2008-07-17 02:01:18
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MattGB Posts: 17


On 2008-07-17 02:01:18, whatsucka wrote:
i want to know how will the SE GPS headset or the GPS in C702, W760 work if theres no data connection?? is like when u in a forest where theres no fone reception at all... how can the GPS help u find a way out??

in USA theres many highway have no fone reception... is it pointless if i get a SE GPS then getting a "real" GPS on the car??



Because it takes the signal from the satellites in space, and doesn't need to use the phone line to the service provider!

If a car has SatNav )as does mine), it doesn't need a phone contract or a data connection with a mobile phone service provider to work, does it. It just uses the satellite signals to triangulate your location, which is why I get frustrated that it's so hard to get a mobile to do the same!

[ This Message was edited by: MattGB on 2008-07-17 01:06 ]
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Posted: 2008-07-17 02:03:10
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arvinlad Posts: 447


On 2008-07-16 13:45:56, makbil wrote:
TomTom seems to provide newer maps for their version 7 software which is not available for UIQ3 devices, so you will be stuck with older maps with little chance of updates.


Are you SURE about this? As far as I know there was a map update for Navigator 6 early this year... I can't believe they won't update the maps - that's how they make more money LOL


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Posted: 2008-07-17 02:36:31
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makbil Posts: > 500

TomTom maps are not at the same revision level for all regions. The latest maps for TomTom Navigator 6 are v6.80 but the number of maps at this version are very limited. I use their maps for PL-CZ-SK-HU-GR-TR-RU v 6.50 which is about 2 years old. Garmin on the other hand has current maps dated 1/2008, there is a big difference, at least for Istanbul. I'm sure that the current maps for UK are newer but since TomTom releases new maps for Navigator 7 only (which work on TomTom devices) it's fair to say that there will not be an update for maps that can be used with Symbian devices.
Performancewise there is not such a big difference between these 3 programs so whichever one has the latest maps (and the possibility to update) that one is probably the best one.
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Posted: 2008-07-17 10:12:03
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701 Posts: > 500


On 2008-07-13 19:55:09, MattGB wrote:
I keep asking people about this, and they mention software which they say does this, but then I check it out, they all seem to requite streaming data from your network provider!

That's the difference between GPS (don't require network connection) and A-GPS (which does, in your case -that's what Iphone has). Google it to see the difference. Why is that? Because the mobile operator has to do profit from your GPS using and that's the way to charge you. That's why I use an independent Mio GPS, so I won't get ripped off. Always ask if it's a GPS chip inside or an A-GPS , a little thing Apple "forgot" to mention:))
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Posted: 2008-07-17 10:27:51
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MattGB Posts: 17


On 2008-07-17 10:27:51, 701 wrote:

On 2008-07-13 19:55:09, MattGB wrote:
I keep asking people about this, and they mention software which they say does this, but then I check it out, they all seem to requite streaming data from your network provider!

That's the difference between GPS (don't require network connection) and A-GPS (which does, in your case -that's what Iphone has). Google it to see the difference. Why is that? Because the mobile operator has to do profit from your GPS using and that's the way to charge you. That's why I use an independent Mio GPS, so I won't get ripped off. Always ask if it's a GPS chip inside or an A-GPS , a little thing Apple "forgot" to mention:))



Indeed, but in fairness, the iPhone on o2 (here in UK) comes on tariffs that include unlimited data, so it doesn't really matter how much you use the A-GPS, as it's all included in the tariff.
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Posted: 2008-07-17 14:20:37
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makbil Posts: > 500

Correct me if I'm wrong, A-GPS provides a rough estimate of your location, not really very useful for navigation. You still need a GPS proper to be able to navigate when driving.
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Posted: 2008-07-17 15:48:13
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