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On 2008-08-11 11:41:38, plankgatan wrote:
On 2008-08-11 10:29:45, Raiderski wrote:
why should we concern about SE? do they concern about users?
eehh. yeh right !
They did care about us users, and stopped the producing of k850.
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Posted: 2008-08-11 18:15:09
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On 2008-08-11 14:58:29, troublesam wrote:
If you're so damn disgusted with SE then why you're all still here??
Nobody needs to explain to you why they are here. Take your own advice, if you don't like what you read then you can go away.
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Posted: 2008-08-11 20:54:16
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AbuBasim wrote:
Dude??? What's wrong with you??? You always crave for better camera specs on mobiles and now your taking side of LED flash in comparison to Xenon... Ofcourse Xenon flash in a cell phone may not be as good as a compact camera but it's way much better than LED flash... And by the way SE is providing both... They just need to make it optional for some of you guys to choose which one to use when, which they ain't even gonna think about...
As for Eldar, what he is saying is somewhat right but not completly... He is mostly not 100% correct as he comments on protos and the final product is somewhat different...
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Posted: 2008-08-11 21:34:11
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Oh, come on. Here's proof:
I was standing at about 8 metres away from the door.
The shot was taken in complete darkness. Sure's there's a lot fo noise, but it does OK, IMO.
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Posted: 2008-08-11 21:43:56
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On 2008-08-11 21:34:11, hgautam wrote:
Dude??? What's wrong with you??? You always crave for better camera specs on mobiles and now your taking side of LED flash in comparison to Xenon...
I was just talking from my own experience. Comparing my two camphones: SE K770i and i-mobile 902, the K770i's LED flash has a greater range than the xenon flash on the i-mobile 902. On the other hand, if I have something to support the i902 on, the low light shots are digicam quality.
@NightBlade,
Here's a shot of our messy living room shot in complete darkness with a Fuji F40fd:
The distance to the far corner is about 10-12 meters. As you can see there's quite some difference in the power of a digicam's vs a camphone's xenon flash...
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Posted: 2008-08-11 22:08:26
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NightBlade, try that in Twilight Portrait mode and you'll see wonders.
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Posted: 2008-08-11 22:18:54
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Abubasim proved the point here. Everyone who have tryed or used a cheap real digicam can understand this.
Regardless of what trick you use with the mobilephone, the pics with will be light-years from the digicam.
So with all phones so far, no one stand a chance against a cam like the Fuji F40FD in any situation. The F40fd is a seriously nice cam that cost less than half of what a c902 does for example...
But maybe just we who have used them understand the difference, i dream of a mobile phone who could capture pictures like it but i think we have to wait yet a couple of years..
The c905 wouldnt stand a chance either i think but maybe the cam will be very good for a mobile phone when all firmware are finished and complete.
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Posted: 2008-08-11 22:37:03
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On 2008-08-11 15:25:35, Pitzon wrote:
I totally agree with Abubasim regarding the flash
K810i light up a room? That must be some strange special edition K810i
K810-NightBlade Edition.
I agree with Eldar about the Xenon.
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Posted: 2008-08-11 23:14:55
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Eldar's website is called Mobile
Review. I don't know about you but to me it sounds like he needs to review phones and not to include his personal opinions in them, because a review needs to look at the phone at hand and only focus on that phone instead of the goings on of the company making it.
He's completely lost the plot here. He no longer properly reviews SE phones. If he wants to talk about his personal opinions he should write a blog.
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Posted: 2008-08-11 23:31:57
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re: Eldar
There is no excuse for a shoddy review. We don't need "support" for SE from him. SE doesn't need it either. What I expect from him - or anyone doing a review - is a good, real-world review. Facts. An unbiased/unrigged test. And let the chips fall where they may. That's kinda the point of a review, no?
Garbage like that shoots Eldar's credibility right in the foot. What's the point of reading another fanboi rant? That's what a bogus job like this turns his work into. I guess I'll have to look elsewhere for real reviews. He becomes just one more tosser on the net with an opinion. And his is biased. Pffft.
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Posted: 2008-08-11 23:39:52
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