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On 2009-03-20 22:00:15, Raiderski wrote:
Tessar is still great but only when glass is much bigger than this what you have in cameraphone
[ This Message was edited by: Raiderski on 2009-03-20 21:12 ]
i couldn't say it any better myself.
(all this talk about how good Carl ziess Tessar on Nokias phones is, is exaggerated).
the main sharpness (and overall quality) you see on ex, N82 its not about its Tessar lens, its mainly about Nokias camera software...(and thats fact, nothing else)
[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2009-03-21 07:38 ]
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Posted: 2009-03-21 08:33:25
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On 2009-03-21 08:20:48, Mizzle wrote:
frankthetank,
There is no way your 50mm lens can be sharp throughout the picture at f/2.8. Try to take a picture of a building at f/2.8 and compare the center sharpness with the side sharpness.
Also - don't change the content of my quotes!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[ This Message was edited by: Mizzle on 2009-03-21 07:21 ]
Oh I'm sorry I guess you're referring to the 1% in the bottom left corner of a shot FROM MY LENS COPY that is slightly soft due to a manufacturing flaw, there is in no way a discernable difference of sharpness throughout the shot at 100 or 200% view on my 3 megapixel display.
The fact is that it's not optically impossible. I suggest you provide greater substantiated proof before you make absolute claims about the laws of physics, or ridiculous quotes will continue to be changed even if just to tame your ego.
[ This Message was edited by: frankthetank on 2009-03-21 10:01 ]
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Posted: 2009-03-21 10:57:20
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Well, methinks CZ lens are overrated, at least the ones Nokia uses ATM. Even tho I use a N series phone right now, I would rate SE phones higher in camera department.
[ This Message was edited by: K. on 2009-03-21 21:43 ]
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Posted: 2009-03-21 22:41:45
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On 2009-03-21 10:57:20, frankthetank wrote:
Oh I'm sorry I guess you're referring to the 1% in the bottom left corner of a shot FROM MY LENS COPY that is slightly soft due to a manufacturing flaw, there is in no way a discernable difference of sharpness throughout the shot at 100 or 200% view on my 3 megapixel display.
The fact is that it's not optically impossible. I suggest you provide greater substantiated proof before you make absolute claims about the laws of physics, or ridiculous quotes will continue to be changed even if just to tame your ego.
[ This Message was edited by: frankthetank on 2009-03-21 10:01 ]
Yes, you'd better be sorry.
It IS optically impossible. Not even the best and most expensive lenses today can deliver sharpness throughout a picture at such large apertures. The edges of an image shot at f/2.8 or larger will always be more blurry than the center or wherever the focus was. Why do you think it is you use small apertures for landscape photography?
[ This Message was edited by: Mizzle on 2009-03-21 22:00 ]
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Posted: 2009-03-21 22:57:12
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Carl Zeiss lens branding doesn't mean much, third party people pay them loads of money to just use their name but they manufacturer it themselves.
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Posted: 2009-03-21 23:28:47
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Give me a Leica lens anyday. Panasonic cameras are best going to get rid of my Sony N1. Leica lens in a phone anyone? Yeah right.
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Posted: 2009-03-22 00:16:00
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Dudes, I'll just say this, don't argue with Mizzle about photography. You'll end up on the misinformed side.
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Posted: 2009-03-22 00:32:30
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Honestly, carl zeiss lenses on a phone is the same as īcheap plastic lenses with a cute nameī on a phone. Nokia uses it for marketing reasons alone.
probably doesnīt think itsīs worth to pay that much just for a name or maybe nokia got an exclusive on that. I couldnīt care less about having īcarl zeissī optics on my phone.
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Posted: 2009-03-22 00:53:02
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Photography in my spare time is one of my interests with a proper digital camera. Love doing landscapes myself. With a mobile phone whatever lens is in it still dont compete with proper digital cameras for landscapes. I do find Leica lenses personally the best myself.
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Posted: 2009-03-22 01:03:00
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Those people doubting how good Carl Zeiss lenses are should read the history of Carl Zeiss. They invented just about every lens technology going and are the most respected name in lenses, hence Sony and Nokia's involvement with them.
There was a News thread here about 3-4 years ago announcing the signing of an agreement between Nokia and CZ and I said at the time that it was a major missed opportunity for SE and would bite them in the butt. I'd go so for as to say it's an embarressing oversight on SE's part.
It's good to see that SE Cybershot phones still perform up to a high level despite the inability to add value via the CZ reputation for excellence.
By the way, 100 yrs before there were Digicams there were microscopes, an important medical breakthrough pioneered by CZ. Some people seem to forget the world existed before the internet...
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Posted: 2009-03-22 01:14:04
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