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SCORPIONKING1982 Posts: > 500

Quote:On 2003-11-20 00:49:42, PTM wrote:
I can't get a signal in town, so there ain't a hope in hell 35,000ft up!

thats a good point, can u actually get a signal all the way up on a plane flying over the ocean?!
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Posted: 2003-11-20 01:11:06
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fabrizio Posts: 134

Clearly over the ocean, there is not coverage, unless you are using an Iridium phone, and you can get the pilot to possibly slant the plane a bit to the side so you can get a clear view of the LEO sats...

As for while flying over the ground, theoretically you could get coverage at cruising altitude (35K feet), since a standard cellular antenna has a radius of coverage of about 10Kms.(OK so you are 605 meters short)
However for optimization of the position of the antenna (parallel to the ground), you do not have coverage and shortly after take-off you will lose the signal.

[ This Message was edited by: fabrizio on 2003-11-20 01:10 ]
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Posted: 2003-11-20 02:02:12
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gajetguy Posts: 1

Hi gang, bin reading your thread here and would like to add my two cents worth.
Regardless of what you want to be the case, as you have said, it is up to the airline whether you can use ANYTHING on board an aircraft. It's their plane - their conditions, as you say, if you don't like it fly another airline.
I speak as a supervisor on board Qantas. No electronic devices are permitted to be used during take off and landing. pretty logical when you think about it, even though the electronic signal created may be very small there is always a possibility of it upsetting an instrument and thats what those guys in the cockpit base their decisions on. Remember Voyager!!! Only the older ones among us would remember it. The signal emitted by that is so miniscule that it takes specialist equipment to read it, but we are still receiving it after all these years and from millions of miles away. We are aware of flight mode equipment but hey! the company says NO ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT DURING TAKEOFF AND LANDING ie from seatbelt sign on to seatbelt sign off !!! As a matter of interest we (read I) do not switch any of the aircraft electronic systems on until cruise is reached and it is switched off at 20,000ft on descent. Also the phone and email system is switched on and off at the same time although this is a satellite system and works on different technology and frequencies. Obviously that system is reasonably safe as the cockpit uses that form of communication all the time.
Hope this helps, I know that for my part I would rather be safe than sorry because someone wanted to play a bloody game while the plane was landing.
Cheers to all
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Posted: 2003-11-20 05:08:36
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hurny Posts: 350

No-one has said that they were using them during take off and landing.

I am flying Quantas in 1 and a half weeks- I wont be using my phone during take off or landing, but ALL the time in between
(with my sim card on my lap of course)
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Posted: 2003-11-20 05:11:50
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nogami Posts: 17

Speaking of stuff on your lap in a plane... A number of laptop computers also include WiFi networking modules now too (especially Apple laptops), as well as bluetooth transceivers. Who wants to bet that many laptop users don't bother turning off the transmitters in their machines when they're on a flight? Additionally, who wants to bet that NOBODY bothers them about it (unless the airline has a "no laptops at any time" rule, which sounds like a receipe for "going out of business").

(the clue could be when everyone in the cabin starts playing multiplayer games together


[ This Message was edited by: nogami on 2003-11-20 08:09 ]
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Posted: 2003-11-20 09:08:07
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hurny Posts: 350


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Posted: 2003-11-20 09:10:04
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scotsboyuk Posts: > 500

I fly quite a bit each year (20 - 30 times) and I find a big difference in the attitude between the different classes on a plane. I usually fly business or first class (First on BA is amazing!) and the flight crew are so polite and helpful and let me keep my P800 on in flight mode.
I recently had to travel economy and the attitude was so much different, they demanded in no uncertain terms that I get my P800 off completely. It was the same airline!
Apparently the old saying of 'money talks' is true. Its quite shocking the difference in service, I was quite apalled actually.
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Posted: 2003-11-20 14:39:58
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hurny Posts: 350

Have you ever stopped to think that maybe that particular flight attendant was a Nokia fan? Its possible she/he just didnt want you using the P800.
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Posted: 2003-11-20 16:03:52
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Rocky88 Posts: 44

Here's what I got from Cathay Pacific of Hong Khong:
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Dear Mr. Sucker,

Thank you for your stupid email.

For the friggin security reasons, all kind of mobile phone cannot be used at any time during your flight (including your P900 you rich bastard...). Please accept our apologies. For the inconvenience caused, please suck my asshole.

Yours 'sincerely',

Daniel "Small" Dick
Cathay Atlantic Airways

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NOTE: This is a real email from Cathay Pacific, just slightly doctored to suit the attitude of the Esatorians.
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Posted: 2003-11-20 16:47:51
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CrackerJack Posts: > 500

@scotsboyuk

Welcome to the real world.
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Posted: 2003-11-20 16:52:16
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