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actually a 100m (class 2) device paired with a 10m (class 1) device will fail outside the 10m radius, because they require a two-way "handshake" in order to transfer data. the class 2 can "see" the class 1, but not vice-versa.
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Posted: 2003-12-11 23:41:07
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Ok, well this was interesting to read. Does it mention what company? I was part of this, and that was about 6-7 months ago when the idea was thought up. But the main counterpart dissapeared and I never heard from him again. The idea is actually really good, in fact there are alot of interesting things that can be done with this and we had thought of all of them. But basically I'm not sure what happened to the plan, so I would be interested to know if this is the same people just trying to promote it now as they got the patent months and months ago....

hmmm, I'll follow the link now. I'm actually creating a prototype model for this as part of my coursework, as even though I never heard from him again, I still needed to finish my c/wk off!

Anyway, I've got a whole project on this basically, and it's a great idea. If people are interested I should have my model done soon, shame it wont be a working one, (not doing any kind of electronics), (well apart from lights and stuff, but not the bluetooth parts!)
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Posted: 2003-12-12 00:20:52
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#gelfen
There are quite a few people claiming to be writing this type of software at the moment. You don't need any electronics - pick up a USB BT adaptor from a computer store and that's all you need along with a laptop.


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Posted: 2003-12-12 17:29:23
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Yeah, software that expands the capabilities of BT is a good idea. I dare say that there's loads of good uses for it, instant messaging for example, but are we ever gonna see them? Or are we only gonna really see the bad ones (i.e. spam)?
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Posted: 2003-12-12 18:04:51
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Wot about an app that screens wot u want 2 see from the junk has Anyone thought bout making one? Take a step back and then look at the prob!;-) This message was posted from a T610
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Posted: 2003-12-12 18:23:34
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@mongey

Valid point, but I would say:

1. Difficult to do. The better companies get at filtering out junk, the better spammers get at getting it through the filters.

2. We shouldn't HAVE to filter out Junk! It's a well known fact that spamming has very low success rates, spammers only do it because it's so cheap and easy to do. If you send out several million emails a week, for example, then at least one person is bound to respond. I'm not talking about legitimate, opt-in marketing here, I'm talking UNSOLICITED SPAM!!

Which is exactly what BT spamming would be. The shops would detect your phone, and send out their crap REGARDLESS of whether you want it or not. That's just not on in my book

It's one thing putting posters up in the shop window to advertise special offers, If you CHOOSE to look at it, then so be it. If they send you ads via BT then you will recieve them regardless, even if you can delete them without reading them. I'd even go as far as to say that it almost constitutes an invasion of privacy.

Sorry, but It's an issue that I feel very strongly about
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Posted: 2003-12-12 18:38:44
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@Cycovision

I agree with you there that it is wrong.

But could shops do that now? I saw some artical on the news yesterday about how it had been made illegal to send spam within in the UK and im geussing europe aswell. I'm geussing this is only relevant to emails but surely given time the EU would introduce something similar for bluetooth devices?. Thus making it illegal for the shop to send us an advertisment and technicaly if we were to recieve one we could threaten them with legal action for sending spam message, however I have to admit it would be hard to prove it was them who sent it etc etc
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Posted: 2003-12-12 19:24:21
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Yes, I saw read that news article too, and I certainly hope that you're right

The problem is, as you say, that the current legislation only appears to address email spam. Companies can still send out flyers and junk mail, and would therefore probably argue that BT spam is completely different to email spam

Knowing the EU, it would take them years to sort the issue out. Particularly when you consider that unlike email spam, banning BT spam could have a bad financial effect on the companies that will provide the hardware and software to do it. Most ISP's and hosting providers hate email spam since they get no extra money from the people who send it out and it has a negative effect on the performance of their systems.

Like I said, let's just hope that you're right


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Posted: 2003-12-12 19:34:56
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I heard there is a cinema in london that have a ir base station on the outside and the people that will recive information on the latest films have to turn on the ir and put the phone in the right position. But what happen when they start using
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Posted: 2003-12-12 21:38:35
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Well I doubt it would take off in cinemas personaly... I mean everytime I go to the cinema I see some dodgy advert normaly from orange telling me to switch my phone off.

But if they started to send messages by bluetooth couldn't we just pair the devices we want to use. So for example pair your T610 with your friends P900 and then set the bluetooth in the T610 to ON but put it in the mode where its hiden if people try to search for bluetooth devices - and im geussing theres a similar option on the P900. So both phones would be invisible to dodgy companies trying send us crappy messages. But and this is the bit where I aren't sure, with the T610 and the P900 being paired togther would they still be able to see each other via bluetooth? If so I suppose that would be a short term answer.

[ This Message was edited by: davieboi on 2003-12-12 22:29 ]
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Posted: 2003-12-12 23:27:25
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