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axxxr Posts: > 500

Patrick eh!..Why do i suspect that you are someone regular on esato and have just come here with a new nick to have a snipe at me...I'll tell you what i'll make it nice and simple for you since your a republican,,For a start i don't talk to republicans cos i think your all a bunch of stupid and ignorant idiots.and secondly your right!even if bush did do everything i'd like him i would still hate him and would like to see him put away somewhere we can get some help.Do u know why coz he's Too Stupid to be President.anyway.
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Posted: 2004-07-22 08:07:55
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Liam Posts: 37

If any country can be assigned blame for supplying / training Al Qaeda it would be the USA not Iraq.

USA supplied weapons to the resistance in Afghanistan when the soviets tried to invade. Who do you think got the leftovers when Soviets left. I'm pretty sure they didnt send them back.
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Posted: 2004-07-22 17:12:46
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axxxr Posts: > 500

Liam your absolutely right!..It was the CIA who trained Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan to fight against the soviets..when america needed osama they used him and his people.of course they supplied them with all the lastest weapons which never went back..America created the monsters we have in this world today..and they have not learnt any lessons from the past and continuing with there policys which is creating more terrorism for which we have to pay the price.
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Posted: 2004-07-22 17:19:41
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Liam Posts: 37

Just thought you needed a bit of support there, i'm sick of all these neo-conservatives in America trying to play the innocent bystander.

Got to say one of their biggest double standards is over their weapons of mass destruction. Has anybody noticed that Israel is one of the only known nuclear countries in the world which repeatedly refuses to let in the weapons inspectors.

And yet its Iran we keep chasing?
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Posted: 2004-07-22 17:42:21
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axxxr Posts: > 500

Again liam i could'nt agree with you more..thanx for your support..Don't know where to even begin with Israel,that damm country has broken so many U.N resolutions the worlds lost count..and everyone know that they have the most nukes in the middle east yet they continue to deny there exsistence..i mean who are they trying to fool?..Majority of the worlds terrorist problems are due to Israel.If america wants peace in the world the Palestinians must have there occupied lands back period..I just do not trust the intentions of the u.s in dealing with the problems of the world..Like scotsboy said here yesterday that america needs an equal rival to stand against it.and wish the u.k could have its empire back!..wow would'nt that be great!
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Posted: 2004-07-22 18:06:52
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Liam Posts: 37

Well so long as that was the British Empire minus 1, i have to admit im Irish though never violently so.

Perhaps a truely United Europe could act as a brake on the US. After all we habe the biggest single market in the world.

Well guess im just dreaming with the rise of UKIP and other groups round Europe it will probably never happen but we can dream.
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Posted: 2004-07-22 18:15:09
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Patrick-in-CA Posts: 0

Quote:On 2004-07-22 08:07:55, axxxr wrote:
Patrick eh!..Why do i suspect that you are someone regular on esato and have just come here with a new nick to have a snipe at me...I'll tell you what i'll make it nice and simple for you since your a republican,,For a start i don't talk to republicans cos i think your all a bunch of stupid and ignorant idiots.and secondly your right!even if bush did do everything i'd like him i would still hate him and would like to see him put away somewhere we can get some help.Do u know why coz he's Too Stupid to be President.anyway.

Where to start ...

Well, let me first say thank you. I appreciate that you took the time to craft your well worded and eloquent response to my post - especially since you make it clear that you don't talk to us stupid and ignorant Republican idiots. (hey - don't take it personal - I'm not an English major and I'll make plenty of grammatical errors too)

Second, I must express a little disappointment. I was hoping that you'd practice what you preach:
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On 2004-06-10 19:42:11, axxxr wrote:
But jojo even though i agree with your point.The only way to get rid of ignorance is through knowledge and debate.

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On 2004-06-11 18:17:19, axxxr wrote:
FOR THE ATTENTION OF ANISH
... I DONT HAVE ANY RESPECT FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO CANNOT HAVE A DECENT AND RESPECTFUL DEBATE.
I can't agree more with what Gelfen wrote in that same thread:
Quote:On 2004-06-11 01:21:10, gelfen wrote:

@axxxr: i'm happy to run with political debate because i don't take any of it personally, and i'm glad you don't either. everyone has a right to express an opinion and i respect that, but equally i have the right to do the same. ...

"I may not agree with a word you say, but I shall defend unto my death your right to say it."
-- Voltaire (1694-1778)

And last, as it is least relevant, my actual identity is of no real consequence to this discussion, is it? Honestly? My name is Patrick. I'm a Senior at a public university in Southern California and I'm a voting Republican. My real e-mail address is in my profile. That's all I can say really.

Now - If you'd like to leave your ego at the login screen and have an intelligent discussion - without the name calling - I'd be happy to oblige. If not, it's okay - life will go on. Despite your blatantly wrong position concerning President Bush - you seem like an intelligent person, worthy of debate. Here's hoping ...

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Thanks for taking the time to read my post.

[ This Message was edited by: Patrick-in-CA on 2004-07-22 19:24 ]
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Posted: 2004-07-22 20:08:11
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axxxr Posts: > 500

Patric i see that your a big fan of mine..collecting all my Quotes..I'm flattered! I respect your opinion but im no mood for debate with you.Thanx for your very kind offer regardless.

Cheers!!


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Posted: 2004-07-23 06:42:07
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Patrick-in-CA Posts: 0

No? Ah, this isn't what I expected. It seemed like most here wanted a good debate. Hey, you never know, I might not be able to defend my position! But someone should at least challenge me, yes?

It's okay - I'm polite. I don't use vulgarity. And really, one must admit, I'm probably a tad bit better worded than many who post here. Or are the liberals afraid to verbally spar with an educated neo-con?

Hey - will any of you defend your position with someone who actually disagrees with you? Even if Axxxr won't - don't worry - maybe we can learn something from each other. Or - If you're absolutely sure you're correct and I'm all wrong - then maybe you'll have the opportunity to change one US citizen's vote from Bush to something more to your liking. I promise I'll consider all points.

Won't someone help this ignorant stupid Republican?
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Posted: 2004-07-23 06:45:39
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axxxr Posts: > 500



Bluetooth Against Bush is a non-profit effort to build anti-Bush support by encouraging people to name their bluetooth devices with the title of the site and then set them on "discoverable" -- thereby allowing likeminded folks to link up during the various intersections of their day.
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Posted: 2004-07-23 08:27:14
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