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@boyi:
(very black humour)
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Posted: 2004-04-14 02:18:01
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boyi i dont have a short memory mate..Saddam did kill thousands of his own people!..But americans are doing exactly the same thing to them aswell!..And i am tired of listening to this Bullsh**t that the americans wanted to rid of saddam of all his evil and genocide..Ok then why does'nt america go into zimbabwe there's been a genocide going on there for years!..yet everyone chooses to ignore that one..ok how about palestine?..Palestinians are refugees in there own land!..Wheres your American liberator now?..and Americans constantly feed the Isreali army with more weapons and money and the Isreali Genocide goes on with!...Come on now ppl why the double standards?..And your right boyi suicide bombers dont simply vanish coz more troops go in..
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Posted: 2004-04-14 02:25:24
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Well GW Bush will be doing a live press conference on the TV in a few minutes,should be on all the news channels,lets see what he has to say.
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Posted: 2004-04-14 02:26:09
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F**k that asshole!!...hate listening to the dumb mother F**ker anyway!!..My pet cat has more intelligence than that meglomanian!!
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Posted: 2004-04-14 02:32:21
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you know, I think everyone excpet the US should get a say in the US presidential elections since it affects us more.
there are no votes in the zimbabwe issue for bush so there's no way the US will get involved. australia has in fact been leading the charge on dealing with zimbabwe, but with precious little support from anyone else. in fact britain should be in it up to her ears because zimba is part of the british commonwealth, but again - no votes in it.
as for the israeli-palestine situation, it's gone well beyond the point of laying blame. suffice to say i disagree with ANY ideology which denies the right of a particular race or religion to exist.
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Posted: 2004-04-14 02:49:36
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Well how about sending a pipeline of oil into zimbabwe from iraq or kuwait and maybe just maybe america will notice!!..and his pet pooch blair will follow!.As far as the palestinian and Iraeali issue is concerned Without a Seperate and True Palestinian State america will find that the war on terror will go on and on and more innocent ppl will just keep on dieing coz of the polocies that america makes!.
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Posted: 2004-04-14 03:08:55
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possibly, but in your opinion would that include the destruction of israel or not?
(i'm trying to get a sense of your political and religious affiliations)
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Posted: 2004-04-14 03:52:48
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erm........ for the sake of everybody who wishes to voice a modest opinion on the matter, can we try and refrain from any namecalling. it does not make all this any easier to read
As far as Bush is concerned... i'd say we stick him, sharon, blair, our own PM Balkenende (
) and that spanish idiot, along with Bin Laden, Saddam, al sadr, all Hamas leaders and Putin in a bunker and nuke it. It may not bring about world peace at once but at least we will have rid ourselves from a bunch of power- and money hungry fools that will lead us to destruction if we don't stop them.
back to the point of armed militias in Iraq: no matter what anybody says..... men with guns never
BUILD anything. All they know is how to destroy.
And no matter where you stand on the issue of 'self defense' or suicide bombing or whatever..... at the very end..... if a
whole generation of suicide bombers has come to pass...... what will they have achieved? They will have achieved a world where they have left their parents without children and their ppl without a future.
Granted, they will have taken quite a few others with them.... but in the end... where will it lead? Nowhere at all.
I agree The US forces shouldn't be in Iraq. But if they pull out now... fully and completely... what will happen? What guarantees are there, in reality, that the iraqi ppl, the ones that are always the victims in this story, will be any better off?
How many of those men with guns really know how to create a safe environment? How many of them know how to buikld and explouit an oi well? How many of them know how to sell an item?
They have not done anything remotely like that for 30 years! How will they fare if left alone? Be honest. And do remember most ppl that did have the knowledge needed either left long ago or were killed.
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Posted: 2004-04-14 09:05:14
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@vlamm: well said
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Posted: 2004-04-14 09:13:35
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Yes, nice one Vlamm!
I sometimes wonder if it would be worth setting up a Palestinian state somewhere, not sure where (answers on a postcard please!!
). It could solve a great many problems, or we all will end up finding something else to argue and fight about, it seems to be human nature to be confrontational.
Regardless of the legality/ethics of the US/UK going into Iraq, they now need to stay to get the countries' infrastructure and economy up and running, and to try to train people (perhaps including some of those gunmen) up so they can build and exploit an oil line, or become a plumber, work in a power station, etc.
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Posted: 2004-04-14 11:12:54
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