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ewap8 Posts: 398

This Sony player is 699 dollars, compared to 399 dollars - the cost of an iPod.

iPod controls over 50% of the mp3 player market.

iPod looks far better (and sexier).
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Posted: 2004-09-06 10:53:56
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themarques Posts: > 500

"iPod controls over 50% of the mp3 player market." Remember who was the leader in this game...and trust me Sony will regain its crown.

With regards to the Ipod being "sexier" I am kinda guessing you dont have a girlfriend... or maybe she is called Ipod Mini........

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Posted: 2004-09-06 20:00:36
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50Cent Posts: > 500

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On 2004-09-06 10:53:56, ewap8 wrote:

iPod looks far better (and sexier).




VS


u sure about that sony one looks far better IMO

Twista
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Posted: 2004-09-06 20:03:59
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Jools Posts: > 500

Europe 'not interested' in video iPod
By Karen Haslam

http://yahoo.reuters.com/fina[....]1-01_10-37-17_l01573745_newsml

According to a survey, Europeans are not interested in a gadget that would play music and video.

The survey by Jupiter Research found that just five per cent are interested in a device that plays both music and video.

Over a quarter (27 per cent) were only interested in a gadget that just plays music. Jupiter questioned 5,000 consumers from Britain, Germany, France, Sweden, Spain and Italy.

The findings go some way to back up Apple CEO Steve Jobs claims that there is no market for portable video on the iPod. He doesn't believe that people would want to watch movies on the small screen, in public.

However, 13 per cent of respondents were interested in a portable video-only player (sounds like a portable DVD player to me!) and seven per cent would like a gadget that plays video games and has a video-playback feature (sounds like a Sony PSP to me!), according to Jupiter.

Reuters suggests that the findings do not bode well for Microsoft, which is trying to kickstart a new market for digital devices that play music and movies with its Portable Media Center software. Microsoft's Bill Gates is convinced that there is a market for devices that allow you to watch movies on the move.

Gates said: "Ask kids in the back of a car on a two-hour trip, 'Hey, would you like to have your videos there?' My kids would "I guess Steve's kids just listen to Bach and Mozart. But mine, they want to watch Finding Nemo. I don't know who made that, but it's really a neat movie."

Jupiter Research analyst Ian Fogg told Reuters: "The problem with the do-everything-devices is they are too bulky, too pricey and there is a relative shortage of multimedia content to play on them."
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Posted: 2004-11-01 15:11:51
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Jim Posts: > 500

I own a 4g Ipod from friday because Sony wasn't able to offer me 2 simple things: a "real" mp3 player and get loose of the dockingstation, you need it to transfer songs ( not very usefull for a portable device !)
So, I went for the Ipod but Aplle has more things to learn like: give a good manual ( mine was formatted to RAW and couldn't in FAT32, had to browse google for an hour ), better sound and better design !!!!!, I can't see anything revolutionary ..., startegy of flooding the market with different versions (?!), scratches very very very easilly !!!!!!!!!!! and no pouch or something like that for the bigger models

But sony has to learn from Apple too: multiple format support, easy of use for the cables ( firewire and usb support, ... ) and the package .

Other than that the Ipod is a cool player but I change it directly for a sony if they give me a real mp3 player
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Posted: 2004-11-01 15:47:59
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Gigs Posts: > 500

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On 2004-11-01 15:47:59, Jim wrote:
..., startegy of flooding the market with different versions (?!), ....


(snip)

Apple's been doing that for years with all their models. Release one, wait 2 weeks, bring out the replacement.

I guess in one way at least they're sticking to tradition.
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Posted: 2004-11-01 20:40:30
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Jools Posts: > 500

Actually, if you look at this page you'll see the average update cycle for all Apple's products:

iPods = 167 days
iMacs = 193 days
iBooks = 158 days
PowerMacs = 176 days

So update cycle is around 5-6 months on average for all Apple's products.

As far as flooding the market with different models there are only 3 iPod models + 1 U2 special edition

The music only iPod (2 sizes)
the iPod Photo (2 sizes)
the iPod mini (5 colours)

So that's just 9 combinations + 1 special edition

Compare that to Creative

21 basic models
Zen Micro is available in 10 colours
Zen NX in 2 sizes
Zen USB 2.0 in 2 sizes
MuVo Micro N200 in 7 colours
MuVoČ FM in 4 colours
MuVo Slim in 7 colours and 4 sizes each
MuVo TX FM in 4 sizes
MuVo TX in 3 sizes
Rhomba NX in 3 sizes

So that's over 60 different models!! Who's flooding the market???

[ This Message was edited by: JoolsG4 on 2004-11-02 09:36 ]
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Posted: 2004-11-02 10:22:32
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Superluminova Posts: > 500

woo - hoo! i'm get my ipod photo in 37 days from the apple store in NYC! i can't wait! and the resaon i'd never buy a sony is that everyone i've ever had has broke within six months!
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Posted: 2004-11-02 17:07:49
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Gigs Posts: > 500

Heh Jools..

iPods = 167 days
iMacs = 193 days
iBooks = 158 days
PowerMacs = 176 days

Lovely list, it does however fail miserably to take into account historical macintosh models which Apple themselves superceeded at a VERY fast rate.

Yes, the above list isn't bad, a 6 month lifecycle.. But it hasn't always been that way.

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Posted: 2004-11-03 01:24:10
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Jools Posts: > 500

Surely, what Apple is doing now is of more relevance than what they may have done in the past?
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Posted: 2004-11-03 10:19:23
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