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On 2004-10-30 16:31:36, absinthebri wrote:
The war against Hitler was a legitimate war of defence against an aggressor. The Iraqi war is illegal and therefore their is no defence to any charges resulting from it.
Very true, but that doesn't make killing any more legitimate, only more acceptable. These matters are very subjective, one man's hero is another's villain. Would Irish Republicans view the death of British soldiers in the same way as the families of those soldiers would? Do the Japanese see their troops who fought in WWII in the same light as Britons do?
If you look at the reposnse sof Iraqis, whether interviewed by Western or non-Western media, the majority are thankful to have Saddam gone and want Coalition troops to stay in Iraq to provide security whilst they rebuild. What I disagree with are the reasons for war, I am pleased that Saddam is gone, if the reason for going to war would have been to remove Saddam rather than WMD then I think there would perhaps be a lot more support for it.
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And I didn't claim ALL coalition troops committed murder - it was you who claimed none did.
I did not. Read my previous posts, I say that I do not view all Coalition troops as murderers or as deliberately targeting civilians. You mentioned the term 'Coalition might', which insinuates the activity of more than single soldiers; it brings to mind images of overwhelming Coalition force and grand strategy deliberately targeting civilians in a deliberate attempt at killing as many as possible.
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Posted: 2004-10-30 16:47:23
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does anyone know how many british troops have been deployed to iraq since march 2003?
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Posted: 2004-10-31 07:23:33
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@eric_emeralds
Wasn't the original deployment around forty thousand (including support staff)? Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think there are currently around eight or nine thousand British troops in Iraq.
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Posted: 2004-10-31 07:36:43
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@scots
You bring up some interesting points, some of which I've been trying to convince my mother and others of for some time. I especially like your opinion that "military" murders being good or bad is a matter of perception. No one else seems to understand that.
What if Iraq were to invade the US to overthrow the Bush Administration... Not that they could, but what if. There would be just as many (if not more) "terrorist" attacks against the invading armies as there are in Iraq against the coalition. But people would rather ignore that and blame Iraqis for killing "innocent" coalition forces. It makes me sick.
Put the shoe on the other foot and it might suprise you.
EDIT: And I voted for Michael Badnarik, the Libertarian candidate, and I feel very good about that. (
http://badnarik.org/) I considered voting for Kerry, but I live in Texas (Bush's home state) so I knew my vote wouldn't count toward anything anyway.
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suite240.textamerica.com[ This Message was edited by: richy240 on 2004-11-01 21:20 ]
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Posted: 2004-11-01 22:15:34
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richy, you note a relevant point - every occupation in history has been met with resistance. It's human nature.
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Posted: 2004-11-01 22:34:25
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absinthebri wrote:
every occupation in history has been met with resistance. It's human nature.
Well, naturally. No one wants to be invaded.
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Posted: 2004-11-01 22:58:10
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This pretty much tells us what the world think of the US election...
http://www.quartervote.com/
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Posted: 2004-11-01 23:28:12
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ELECTION IS TOMORROW!
im on the edge of my seat!
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Posted: 2004-11-01 23:37:00
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@ninja - very interesting link there - the comments are quite true!
Heard of a similar site -
www.betavote.com which has very similar results!
It seems the only people that like Bush are the disproportionately powerful US religious right
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Posted: 2004-11-01 23:40:14
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More like disproportionately stupid.. hehe.
Betavote was interesting, 500000 voters and bush wins in 2 countries out of 150...
[ This Message was edited by: Ninjaturtle on 2004-11-01 22:44 ]
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Posted: 2004-11-01 23:41:08
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