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hymie Posts: 249

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Couldn't agree more. It's just a shame for SE. Especially when they should have all the necessary expertise onboard with backup from Ericsson engineers.
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Posted: 2008-02-15 11:53:17
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max_wedge Posts: > 500

I don't know if I agree that HSDPA is as necessary for business as you say. I consult with business, both corporate and small business, on a daily basis and most business use of smartphones that I see is more than adequately provided for by 3G bandwidth. In Autralia, and many other countries, bandwidth is simply too expensive for business to use it for anything more than email and basic web browsing. So even if HSDPA is available it's not going to be utilised to any great degree, atleast for the next 12-18 months.

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Posted: 2008-02-15 11:56:54
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mode Posts: > 500

It is necessary for those who want the best. Even if it is not necessary for you 2 1/2 years gap from the time it was available till end of 2008? C'mon, that can't be right, anyone knows that. I'm not asking SE to equip all their range with HSDPA, just 1 smartphone, 1 freakin smartphone. Perhaps that's too much to ask.
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Posted: 2008-02-15 12:07:22
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max_wedge Posts: > 500

hmmm okay, fair enough, but all I'm saying is that SE don't design their corporate plans around niche markets, and for various reasons they consider HSDPA as niche.

You may disagree but you don't have the global view that SE have to consider. Generally, around the world mobile broadband is not cheap enough for HSDPA to get any serious utilisation. When that changes, phone OEM's will bring out more and more HSDPA.

I blame the operators for being so stingy with mobile broadband pricing. AS you say, it's 2008 for God's sake! Why the hell is mobile broad band still stupidly expensive in most parts of the world? Change that fact and SE will have HSDPA phones coming out of their ears.
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Posted: 2008-02-15 12:34:49
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kcuf_di Posts: 8

It seems pretty fast to me through the menu.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5g8LO38WPE&feature=related
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Posted: 2008-02-15 12:40:37
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hymie Posts: 249

@max_wedge: Sorry, but I guess you have not realized that HSDPA is widely spread in some of the largest markets in the world. Entire continental Europe sports full HSDPA coverage, moderate pricing plans are available to consumers.

I don't see your point. We all can live with the fact SE having some mid-range smartphones with not so state-of-the-art technology. However it is disappointing that SE can not deliver any UIQ smartphone with topical technical specs at the moment and probably for the rest of 2008 at all. This will further deteriorate SE's following among the tech-savvy and business users.

Cheers,
hymie
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Posted: 2008-02-15 12:53:33
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hansen Posts: 209


On 2008-02-15 12:40:37, kcuf_di wrote:
It seems pretty fast to me through the menu.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5g8LO38WPE&feature=related


The question when watching clips like this is: was the app already running in the background or not?
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Posted: 2008-02-15 12:58:52
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Nipsen Posts: > 500

..the question is: why shouldn't it run in the background?
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Posted: 2008-02-15 13:09:12
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benitorios Posts: 259


On 2008-02-15 10:14:29, max_wedge wrote:
this is right, I think very few people are in a position to really benefit from HSDPA (ie in a location where HSDPA is offered by providers, and data is affordable enough to actually benefit from faster downloads)

From that point of view, I hardly think "this day and age" covers it In this "day and age" data is still expensive and only a fraction of providers offer true HSDPA service coverage. So it's not yet something that cell phone manufacturers ought feel obliged to make ubiquiteous imho.



True, but if you want to buy a phone that you're going to use for the next 3-4 years (not everyone can afford to change phones every few months), you'll want it to have many connectivity feature on board, for when these connectivity options become available/affordable with your provider.

In that respect, it's slightly disappointing the G series doesn't have HSDPA.


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Posted: 2008-02-15 13:25:04
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hansen Posts: 209


On 2008-02-15 13:09:12, Nipsen wrote:
..the question is: why shouldn't it run in the background?



You mean like "to let often used apps stay open is the appropriate way to use the phone"?

Yes, I guess. But then what's the fuss about uiq being sluggish? Used that way apps are opening instantly, right? To my knowledge the only lagging takes place when starting up applications. RAM would then set the limit of possible number of open applications.

Correct me if I'm wrong though, I don't own a UIQ device but have used P1 somewhat.
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Posted: 2008-02-15 13:42:07
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