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@wuz: agreed with u there mate.....still hafn't found way to donate (PayPal is useless where i reside) and me money saved from smoking less is accumulating.....gonna try gettin my uncle in uk to donate on my behalf and pass him the dough when he gets home for x-mas....hope this helps laffen......
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Posted: 2002-12-10 11:13:00
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On 2002-12-10 01:59, jamiescott wrote:
but how many of you, not knowing what you know now, would've paid to join this site? I wouldn't have, I'd pay a fair amount now but no matter what word of mouth is, I'd NEVER pay to view a site that I haven't already seen ALL the content.
how about 3 months free subscription to new members then.
after that, if people want to download ringtones/logos or post on the forums, i don't think a modest subscription would put that many off.
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Posted: 2002-12-10 11:26:00
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@wuz, true, nothing is outrageous as this is just a discussion. i mentioned "quite uninformed" because he has not had the opportunity to learn what we have been doing in this part of the world for esato.
cheers.
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Posted: 2002-12-10 12:10:00
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how has it been going in your part of the world. better than here hopefully.
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Posted: 2002-12-10 12:16:00
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Blackcat, although I'd love to agree with you on that, as I'm sure if most members where given the ultimatum 'pay or lose the site', they'd cough up, but I fell the problem of the amount of people that would pay, although those of us good hearted enough have given and will continue giving support to Esato, would still be an issue. I'm assuming that the vast majority of people who USE Esato, are just in it for the freebies (logos etc.), And these people would not pay after three months, they would sign up again and keep leeching. Although an idea that would make us feel all walm and cosy if it did work, I feel it would bring in very limited cash.
P.S. Does anyone know how many people pay to have the banners and pop-up's killed on Howardforums?
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Posted: 2002-12-10 12:34:00
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arnoldc - Point taken.
-However, does this not highlight a fundamental flaw with the fundraising efforts thus far. Namely, too low profile (Yes, I know I keep banging on about it... but I'm in the business of marketing, so please forgive me).
If you are doing something to help raise funds, surely it would be a good idea to publicize the fact? By doing so, you might inspire others to do the same; you help generate momentum and ensure the issue does not fade away, as well as keeping up moral.
i.e. Keep us Informed - its a good thing.
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Posted: 2002-12-10 12:36:00
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I must agree with you Wuz, although in my company we don't need to rely on marketing, situations like this need to be shoved right in peoples faces before they will stand up and take note, if you want to talk about the issue fading away, compare today with last thursday, (the 5th), there were nearly 40 posts in this thread by this time then, it's not hard to count many there have been today, and we've got about half of them between us!!
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Posted: 2002-12-10 13:04:00
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jamiescott - Absolutely.
I can understand Laffen's reluctance to make too much of the appeal; its a thin line between raising awareness and overkill. That said, if the situation really is as dire as being suggested, I can' help but feel a 'nothing to lose' approach is worth adopting, in the weeks/days (?) remaining.
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Posted: 2002-12-10 13:19:00
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if, as you say, most people are here for the freebies, then that in itself is the problem in a nutshell. nothing is totally free. if people are after logos and ringtones then why not put a charge on them? look how much people charge for nokia ringtones etc. £1.50/ringtone is a very common price. those sites/companies are making some very healthy profits out of doing nothing else. i'm not suggesting for one minute that we should, or laffen would, consider per download charges; but something has to give.
how many of us couldn't believe our luck when we found a site that gave us everything we wanted, and then we found we weren't going to pay for any of it, thought we were dreaming? the dream is rapidly turning into a nightmare. if some people who are only into esato for as many free downloads as they can manage decide not to bother anymore, then what has the site really lost?
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Posted: 2002-12-10 13:26:00
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@Black Cat
if laffen gave a 3 month free subscription and then say "pay or leave". The thing that most of the people would do was to create a new member account and get 3 more months free. Easy!
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Posted: 2002-12-10 13:40:00
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