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So far from the samples we've been having as of this moment the 20MP samples are a mixed bag(depending on the lighting/scene, you get noise-infested to excellent low ISO pictures), but the 8mp ones are really good even at higher ISO.
I noticed that from the day I first saw the z1 preproduction samples, Sony really haven't done anything much on eliminating the luminance noise on the 20MP photos. it's equally as detailed as the QX10 but the NR alrogithm on the latter is more balanced, effectively eliminating luminance noise while retaining as much details as possible. this is the only weak point I can sniff out of the Z1 camera performance so far.
to demonstrate my argument I retouched the picture below (originally taken by androidpit) and this is how it looked
And Notice how QX10 and Z1 samples looked virtually the same now. I think Sony should release a better firmware to resolve this issue before the device ships, would prefer if the Sony Imaging team would handle this. I like it though that it's only luminance noise, because it's easy to fix, chroma noise(the issue with 2011/2012 Xperia cameras) is an utter disaster even on DSLRs.
Just imagine if Sony marketed Z1 as a 8mp 16:9 (downsampled from 20mp) camera smartphone rather than a 20mp.
[ This Message was edited by: razec on 2013-09-06 13:13 ]
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Posted: 2013-09-06 14:09:34
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looks good razec and it sounds like it should be an easy fix for the sony imaging team to implement in a firmware update. since units are probably already shipping to retailers/carriers, it'll probably be in the first update.. and by the sound of things, that update will probably come fairly soon like oct/nov
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Posted: 2013-09-06 14:15:49
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On 2013-09-06 13:56:49, Miki69 wrote:
On 2013-09-06 12:12:38, randomuser wrote:
The final picture processing engine is still not ready and hence currently Z1 uses similar processing as Z/ZL, with the new camera firmware (possibly out in October) the camera quality will jump much higher.
Well that's awesome! So, BIONZ mobile is still not configured, if I understand correctly?
Cheers,
Miki
Well yes but also the JPEG processing algorithm mainly.
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Posted: 2013-09-06 14:20:10
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The pictures Ramu posted look good on my iphone, but i'll refrain to post a comment before i can use it or see techradar or other site review.
@moogoo: thanks mate, Latios posted a similar link, i am definitely trying it on september 14 or 15.
@Tejstar: sorry i am not familiar with android, i have read a bit but you can unlock locked bootloaders no? Or does this mean we are stuck with docomo crapware, and no way to get full control of the phone?
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Posted: 2013-09-06 14:47:38
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Yes. Docomo version has
1. Locked Bootloader
2. Docomo Bloatware
3. Slower Official updates
4. Docomo logo
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Posted: 2013-09-06 14:49:16
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Interesting ramu.
I guess, with the 32gb and docomo subsidies, it may balance things a little bit.
Or the good news is that i may be able to go AU!
Anyways what actual difference does a locked bootloader makes, it can be unlocked cannot it?
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Posted: 2013-09-06 14:55:53
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Why is Sony doing this?? Releasing their new top imaging device with said BIONZ imaging processing and now someone says the new imaging software is not going to be updated till a month or two down the line?? Jesus come on seriously Sony not good enough
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Posted: 2013-09-06 15:01:00
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@Bono.. it's just not finalized, but it is plenty good right now. it will just get even better. What sony is doing is no different than any other manufacturer who release less than perfect devices, only to send out an update a month or two after launch. Samsung and Apple both do it.
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Posted: 2013-09-06 15:05:20
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On 2013-09-06 15:05:20, moogoo wrote:
@Bono.. it's just not finalized, but it is plenty good right now. it will just get even better. What sony is doing is no different than any other manufacturer who release less than perfect devices, only to send out an update a month or two after launch. Samsung and Apple both do it.
I already mentioned this several pages back - and don't dismiss 60fps and 4k video either
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Posted: 2013-09-06 15:09:10
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On 2013-09-06 10:23:25, ZappyDen wrote:
On 2013-09-06 10:01:31, titus1 wrote:
With G-lens coupled with BIONZ...there should be a WOW factor already even if it was on early firmware. Sony should make it right by now.
Just say its shame for Lumia 1020, that Z1 being Smaller sensor is really kicking it and coming close to it in some areas
Z1 is still without
OIS
XENON
LARGER SENSOR
but it is proving better and better
And Last 3 photos from xperiablog having firmware .518 were shot with ISO800
and rest were shot at ISO 50 or ISO 64
BUT i am really impressed by sample photos really sony made it this time
A lot of phones come close to the 1020 in certain conditions, its overall flexibility and range of effectiveness where the 1020 is superior.
As far as the low ISO values, I find that very interesting as they are exactly the same as the 808..
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Posted: 2013-09-06 15:14:39
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