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CrownedAkuma Posts: > 500
On 2015-01-06 19:56:52, XperiaJunkie wrote:
Xperia Z4
5.2" full HD, Triluminos display with X-Reality for mobile
Qualcomm SD810 SoC
4GB of RAM
32GB internal storage + Micro SD slot
Front facing stereo speakers
S-Master HX digital amp
IP68 certified
21MP rear camera (possibly IMX230)
5MP selfie camera
3000+ mAh battery with QI wireless charging (possible case needed like Z3)
Android 5.0 Lollipop
Would anyone be disappointed with that spec sheet? the only thing missing for me is an IR blaster, and considering most people are tied into 24m plans those early adopters of the original Xperia Z will get one hell of an upgrade that's for sure.
I would like this specs, especially for 32GB of ROM and 4GB of RAM. But I'm really sceptic about the Amp Chip for sound and the ROM... How many times have we heard about this possible addition? countless... but they were never announced at the end! However I strongly believe that Sony this time will put Qi Charging... and I would be happy about this as it would mean the remove of the magnetic charging port, so a slimmer and sleekier device. Would love to see a new camera sensor, and a good looking Notification LED (like in the Z2 and not like the Z3) and also a new stylish and useful cover (something in the line of the HTC One DotCover
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Having said that I'm way more interested in the Xperia Z4 Tablet because I'm looking to buy a tablet
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Posted: 2015-01-07 11:22:45
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@CrownedAkuma
Yeah, the magnetic port has to go. we don't want proprietary shit sony. stop finding ways to make profit on consumers (charging station). just give ip68 usb port and built in wireless charging. it's about time.
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Posted: 2015-01-07 11:40:02
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XperiaJunkie Posts: > 500
In response to a question I asked about the digital amp
randomuser replied with this.
On 2014-12-28 17:09:44, randomuser wrote:
Same sensor as Z3. No changes.
S-Master HX will be present on Z4 but don't expect Walkman grade audio quality. It will be similar to "BIONZ" on Xperia.
Also it has been mentioned on a few sites now that Sony will focus more on audio with the Z4.
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Posted: 2015-01-07 11:45:35
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CrownedAkuma Posts: > 500
On 2015-01-07 11:40:02, amirprog wrote:
@CrownedAkuma
Yeah, the magnetic port has to go. we don't want proprietary shit sony. stop finding ways to make profit on consumers (charging station). just give ip68 usb port and built in wireless charging. it's about time.
Absolutely! but only if they put inside it the Qi Charging... because the Magnetic port is really useful and practical! I bought a 9,99$ magnetic charging cable and I couldn't be more happy with it
Also guys hev you tried the Beta Version of TrackID? It is the only possible hint at the 5.0 Xperia Style, I think... And Have you seen that the Icon of TV Sideview has changed to a more Material Style? If they'll make all the app icon like that they'll be sweet
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Posted: 2015-01-07 13:48:33
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On 2015-01-07 08:12:51, Xajel wrote:
@HxH
My points were from previous Tegra SoC's, it might be different this time as NVIDIA did the Maxwell cores very well. but is this enough for a mobile SoC ? the benchmarks only showed performance and all previous Tegra SoC's showed this first with amazing results.. but later when real-world battery life comes there was disappointments...
I was mistaken by the 8x A53 cores config as I saw that on two websites and thought this is the real thing... but now it's correct as you said it's actually a big.LITTLE configuration with 4x A57 + 4x A53 which is nice...
The problem bro is that 10W is still very high for a mobile phone SoC, and the 1TFlops comes mainly from the GPU cores of the SoC but the general ARM core will have something also to share with this 1TFlops.
According to notebookcheck.com the Snapdragon 801 is using 3-4W depending on configuration, while the Snap 805 uses 3-5W depending on the configuration. so the X1 is more than double 801 and double 805 in it's maximum power.
And the last thing you already mentioned, the lack of modem.. and this will mean increased cost not to mention that more power will be needed to power both the SoC and the modem, while the 801 + 805 already has a modem and the power is total of it...
Interesting, thanks for great information as always.
But Snapdragon 805 isn't has modem inside die chip, SoC with modem is 800, 801 and 810.
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Posted: 2015-01-07 13:56:12
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A new juicy Z4 (shown in closed doors at ces) leak from ePrice, pretty reliable site as far as i remember) (google translate):
http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4551/4924586/1/
phonearena translation:
http://www.gforgames.com/gadg[....]a-z4-two-flavors-2k-fhd-46041/
waterproof usb port (certainly ip68), glossy metal frame ("the elemental" may be the real thing), some markets get 2k, some get 1080p (that i don't understand), blue color version, slim and lightweight chassis maintained without sacrificing battery. a positive news overall.
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2015-01-07 16:55 ]
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Posted: 2015-01-07 17:52:56
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On 2015-01-07 08:12:51, Xajel wrote:
@HxH
My points were from previous Tegra SoC's, it might be different this time as NVIDIA did the Maxwell cores very well. but is this enough for a mobile SoC ? the benchmarks only showed performance and all previous Tegra SoC's showed this first with amazing results.. but later when real-world battery life comes there was disappointments...
I was mistaken by the 8x A53 cores config as I saw that on two websites and thought this is the real thing... but now it's correct as you said it's actually a big.LITTLE configuration with 4x A57 + 4x A53 which is nice...
The problem bro is that 10W is still very high for a mobile phone SoC, and the 1TFlops comes mainly from the GPU cores of the SoC but the general ARM core will have something also to share with this 1TFlops.
According to notebookcheck.com the Snapdragon 801 is using 3-4W depending on configuration, while the Snap 805 uses 3-5W depending on the configuration. so the X1 is more than double 801 and double 805 in it's maximum power.
And the last thing you already mentioned, the lack of modem.. and this will mean increased cost not to mention that more power will be needed to power both the SoC and the modem, while the 801 + 805 already has a modem and the power is total of it...
Here is a comparison from anandtech, again running Manhattan 1080p (offscreen) with X1’s GPU underclocked to match the performance of the A8X at roughly 33fps.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8811/nvidia-tegra-x1-preview/3
NVIDIA’s tools show the X1’s GPU averages 1.51W over the run of Manhattan. Meanwhile the A8X’s GPU averages 2.67W, over a watt more for otherwise equal performance. This test is especially notable since both SoCs are manufactured on the same TSMC 20nm SoC process, which means that any performance differences between the two devices are solely a function of energy efficiency.
Not saying this is a super scientific test but I feel the 20nm and the arm cores help in power drainage. I feel the target for this chip will not be phones but tablets of course.
@amirprog, I knew the Z4 would be backstage at CES, hopefully something leaks, I am fine with no 2K screen on the phone, probably will be the case for Europe, at least here in Poland for sure, 1080 is plenty on the small screen. I am happy the USB will be open, no more docks, but I do like using my dock haha. I hope the camera will have phase detection, otherwise I doubt they can improve the autofocus. I honestly wish Sony adds exposure control and ability to choose ISO like a real camera and real manual control, they can do it, and if the cybershot rumours are true, might as well add a decent camera with manual controls (minus aperture, this would be very hard on a tiny module).
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Posted: 2015-01-07 18:13:14
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If the 1080p version of the Z4 has the same specs like the QHD version but with a cheaper price point and better battery life then I'm totally fine.
[ This Message was edited by: JohnnyNr.5 on 2015-01-07 17:50 ]
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Posted: 2015-01-07 18:49:59
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I'm really hoping for Type-C, but not sure what to expect due to the G Flex 2 not using it.
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Posted: 2015-01-07 18:52:35
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@ascariss
Well, i don't get what's the point of having 2k for us and possibly other regions and 1080p for other markets. either have all with 1080p or all with 2k. i'm fine with 1080p for 5.2" but i feel that the reason for this is related to business between the panel manufacturers and sony and not a concern of sony for battery life.
can you explain from your knowldge why sony is yet to add manual focus and why not all camera features are available in the higher resolution modes? and also let's hope auto mode gets better.
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Posted: 2015-01-07 19:19:42
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