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On 2008-02-11 16:13:47, Vlad83 wrote:
On 2008-02-11 15:47:56, GoonerB wrote:
On 2008-02-11 15:31:41, Naamloos wrote:
Why in the world would someone at a Customer care Center know when a new firmware will be out. ...WTF is wrong with you people, never worked in a big company?
Exactly..
'But when I phoned up Bob said that he sits next to Timmy who does all the firmwares, and he said he's just about to release it.' lol
LMAO
I agree with both sides. Mizzle seems to relish attention and give the perception of being an insider but not contributing what so ever. All the flamers however, need to understand that this is the internet and anyone can say what he/she feels (to a certain extent). You guys don't have to pay attention to his posts if you find him not credible, flaming will only make you look foolish.
i couldn't agree more.
if you don't give mizzle the credit then just ignore his posts, i personally do give him credit and think he's a respected member so i woul keep paying attention to his posts here and on his blog.
Stop releasing your frustrations for the FW not coming out by insulting and offending members, there are more mature and polite ways of doing it.
SO F**K YOU !!!

hahahaha
sorry but i am a little stressed myself it is monday
[ This Message was edited by: tonchy on 2008-02-11 16:13 ]
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Posted: 2008-02-11 17:03:00
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On 2008-02-11 15:31:41, Naamloos wrote:
Why in the world would someone at a Customer care Center know when a new firmware will be out. They only know IF a new firmware is out. Those people have nothing to do with the development of a firmware.
WTF is wrong with you people, never worked in a big company?
Well i think that the name "customer care center" defenately should mean that they have a clue about something that are extremely closely related to a product- or rather IS a significant part of a product like the firmware is.
I don't really care about i they don't have that kind of interaction within a company or want to have it, i say they bloody well should have it so we, the customers, will know when we can excpect to get crucial updates. And if they can't give an excact date-just say so. And/or let us know if something gets delayed.
I would have been fairly satisfied(for a while) with the answer- "we don't know when it will be out but we are working on it". But by now it has taken to much time for me to be happy and peachy with an answer like that i just examplyfied.
The thing is they have been really hinting(i'm talking about the info about update on the SE page where they present some accesories) that an update would be out in januari and then tells us it will be out in week 6 and they told me that no delayes was foreseed. The reason i think we can be so picky about this is that they have released such a crappy firmware in the first place!
For me it would have been okey if the firmware was pretty ok from the start but a minor addition or adjustment was on the way then i could have be a lot calmer and forgiving and patient!
[ This Message was edited by: fullforce on 2008-02-11 16:33 ]
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Posted: 2008-02-11 17:31:13
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So Tonchy, you are saying that we should stop using the forums for their intended purpose? This is a place to learn but it's also a place to express our frustration and dissatisfaction with a product, in this case SE's K850i. When someone comes along and makes bold statements as if they know what's going on and those statements REPEATEDLY are PROVEN to be wrong by the lack of follow-through, what else can we do but point out a sham? Mizzle doesn't know squat about when this firmware is coming out or what it's going to include PERIOD! If he does, he feels too high and mighty to share any REAL information with the rest of us lay-men and all he's given us is misinformation. Smoke and mirrors is all I see so far.
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Posted: 2008-02-11 17:32:15
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Something tells me that if this thread goes anymore off topic. A certain mod will end up locking it.
Mizzle has given some good info in the past and has been helpful in other parts of the forum. He/she can only say so much depending on what info he/she actually has. Maybe he/she is limiting what they are saying about things due to it being confidential or sketchy details (Some employers do view/read their employees internet usage and the places they have been to and have been found to have leaked information they shouldn't have.
Mizzle was correct about a certain firmware release. Namely 039 (For Hutch-World/3 Branded K850's) so there is something to what he/she is saying.
I have a K850 as well and I'm also somewhat dissappointed with how the phone works. But hey, it makes calls and sends texts which is the basis of a phone. All the extra is added on. We all had a choice when we handed over our money/signed into another lenghty network subscription.
Live with it and be patient people.

did well with the final K750 and K800 imo and I cant see them leaving this one.
I do agree that the end user shouldn't be receiving faulty items but its like anything you buy. A brand new car for example. Things can still go wrong with one just as much as an older model. End of the day theres a warranty. If the fault is covered. return the item for repair/replacement.
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Posted: 2008-02-11 17:35:06
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But...i didn't buy my phone just to make calls and send sms..so i have myself to blame? Buhuhuhu
I demand it to work, maybe with some minor glitches, as specified! They have taken too much time to fix this and that's the real issue here.
[ This Message was edited by: fullforce on 2008-02-11 16:44 ]
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Posted: 2008-02-11 17:41:52
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Anyone else notice that SEUS now says "A2" when identifying the phone?
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Posted: 2008-02-11 17:57:28
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and k858 has been removed? (judging from your pic)
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Posted: 2008-02-11 18:03:40
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On 2008-02-11 18:03:40, Duran wrote:
and k858 has been removed? (judging from your pic)
It never had k858 for me.
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Posted: 2008-02-11 18:04:40
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However this is the first Official reference to the K850a that I have seen anywhere, so that means that AT&T will be getting their crippled phone after all.
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Posted: 2008-02-11 18:08:24
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On 2008-02-11 17:41:52, fullforce wrote:
But...i didn't buy my phone just to make calls and send sms..so i have myself to blame? Buhuhuhu
I demand it to work, maybe with some minor glitches, as specified! They have taken too much time to fix this and that's the real issue here.
Neither did I (I didnt actually buy it or renew my subscription to get mine but thats something else). Besides making phone calls and sending messages. I got it for the improved camera, MMS, music etc. Just like what I bought my K800, K810, P1 and S500 for.
Microshaft are still releasing fixes for XP as well as for Vista. Saying that a developer should release 100% perfect everytime is not possible as there will always be someone out there with a complaint.
You cant please everyone all of the time.
Some fixes could produce problems elsewhere in the programming. If an update came out that fixed one thing but caused a problem elsewhere. People would complain again. Its like a never ending circle.
Personally. I'd prefer

to have identified as many problems as possible and have them rectified before releasing the next update.Even if it does take them longer than expected. The reduction in sales will make the big wigs push a bit harder to get the product right so they can recoup the money that has been spent in R&D.
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Posted: 2008-02-11 18:11:28
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