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On 2019-08-04 16:08:18, Hawk12 wrote:
They said this sensor would not give any advantage over a native 12MP.
Compare the snail shot of XA1 and XZP.
XA1 looks better
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2019-08-04 16:14 ]
They said that for the flagship afaik. But that big of a bulge certainly means either ois or a big sensor.
About XA1's cam, I said it before, Sony's MTK devices had better still images. I don't know why but Qualcomm chips seemed to mess up Sony's processing until they worked together on SD845. Xa2 and 1 uses the same cam setup but Xa1 beats Xa2 in image quality. Xa2+ is a more fair fight.
if they price X20 at 550 dollars it'd be a hard sell. Even at 500 it should come with a high midrange cpu, ois/big sensor, IP rating and stereo setup.
I don't know if invites are sent for the event. But ifa should be on the 6th.
Cabon fiber? Like for back panel or the whole body? For midrange I think they shouldn't risk anything and use tried and tested materials.
[ This Message was edited by: Ppl on 2019-08-04 17:57 ]
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Posted: 2019-08-04 18:56:38
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The bulge of 10+ compared to 10 is the 52mm cam.
I doubt they will put OIS on midranges.
Back panel. Plastic is better than carbon to lose heat, but since midranges to have high processing power I dont think it would be problem. But carbon is much lighter.
Aquos Zero is 15,4 x 7,3 x 8,8 but only 146g.
Carbon is very tough too.
I hope X20 is something like U19e.
Htc is charging less than $500 and it has SD710, 6Gb, 128Gb, iris scanner, hdr oled, ip68, dual cam (wide + zoom) , jack and stereo/boom sound.
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2019-08-04 19:29 ]
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Posted: 2019-08-04 20:24:59
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My mate has an Xperia 1 and it's covered in micro scratches, it looks awful. Move to the plastic/glass like XZ1 Compact, frosted glass like Z5 or brushed metal like X Performance.
Xperia 20 is trash, it'll be too expensive so nobody will buy it.
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Posted: 2019-08-04 20:41:09
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It'd be curious to see a frosted deep black Xperia, since Z5 was just grey.
20's bulge is pretty substantial compared to 10+ no?
badassmam are you saying this because you know its price and specs or just an expectation?
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Posted: 2019-08-04 22:58:56
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Since we dont know what they plan for future, I decided to post this here.
This is exactly what I've been looking for and predicted was going to happen.
https://youtu.be/uvaEVZZd1es
X1 and XZ2P out for a night walk.
The difference is shocking.
Of course in favor of 2P.
If anyone here works there, please tell them to bring aube back.
There is no way a single 1/2.55" RGB can beat 1/2.3" rgb + 1/2.3" mono.
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2019-08-05 07:40 ]
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Posted: 2019-08-05 00:21:00
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I looked at the renders again, high chance 20 doesn't have a metal frame and a glass back. Its frame structure resembles Ace and the back is also similar but have shine like the L3 (fake glass)
This one is supposed to have 6" display, it's not like the plus versions of the Xa series it's a successor. The leak suggests 12 + 12 mp camera, don't know about 10+ but it definitely has a bigger cam than x10. But it is Japan only. Global version might change or even not even exist.
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Posted: 2019-08-05 08:24:45
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On 2019-08-05 00:21:00, Hawk12 wrote:
Since we dont know what they plan for future, I decided to post this here.
This is exactly what I've been looking for and predicted was going to happen.
https://youtu.be/uvaEVZZd1es
X1 and XZ2P out for a night walk.
The difference is shocking.
Of course in favor of 2P.
If anyone here works there, please tell them to bring aube back.
There is no way a single 1/2.55" RGB can beat 1/2.3" rgb + 1/2.3" mono.
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2019-08-05 07:40 ]
Not that shocking considering the XZ2P has monochrome aux lens. However, the 1 has many advantages over the XZ2P. This video is definitely not showing the whole picture.
Moreover, if you're comparing sensor sizes you should know that it's meaningless on its own. You should refer to pixel pitch and the Xperia 1 (1.4um) has bigger pixels than XZ2P's main lens (1.22um).
We should also remember that the Xperia 1 has a considerably lower resolution, especially when zooming in.
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Posted: 2019-08-05 09:58:39
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sensor sizes should be bigger for next years
even chinese midranges have 1/2 inch 48 mp sensor these days, will have 1/1.7 inch 64 mp sensor in a few months.
mate 30 supposed to have a 1/1,5 inch 40 mp sensor.
dont fall to big brands' pr statements. big sensor+big pixel+good software = better image quality
sony should definetly go with this route, 108mp(1/1,5?? inch)+12 mp(1/1,5 inch) mono with aube and ois can destroy any mobile phone maybe even older rx100 series.
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Posted: 2019-08-05 10:57:13
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Pixel size is important for high iso sensibility.
If you are shooting between 100-800 it wont matter.
Other brands moved from 12MP 1.55 to 12MP 1.4 ..
Settings matter more.
Remember the gsma tool with xz2 being better in 5 lux too?
They need at least RGGB 1/1.8" + mono 1/1.8" + aube.
And find way to make it work with HDR, macro and 4K.
10/10+ have unibody.
L3 has 2.5D rear plastic.
The render of 20 looks flat panel, perfect between the frames like XZP.
They even made the reflex on the surface.
Will Sony now provide 2 updates for midranges?
XA2 is not listed to earn Q.
No mediatek excuse anymore.
According post from Mr Buks, looks like no other 4K this year. 😰
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2019-08-05 13:51 ]
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Posted: 2019-08-05 11:44:18
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xz2 samples are best because of shutter speed.it can capture 2-3 times more light then other phones but without tripod it'll be meaningless comparation for normal usecases.
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Posted: 2019-08-05 16:38:48
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