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i also thought that CCD was much better then cmos...but now when i know the fact. thats bollocks.....
i thought every expensive cameras had ccd !!! ..i was realy realy wrong...........
you find CMOS in many expensive cameras .....example EOS 1D Mark III & II use CMOS, (cost between 4000-8000 EURO)........and many many other big cameras have cmos.
so thats bullshit that ccd allways is better..
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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2007-11-09 08:59 ]
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Posted: 2007-11-09 09:51:02
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On 2007-11-09 09:51:02, plankgatan wrote:
i also thought that CCD was much better then cmos...but now when i know the fact. thats bollocks.....
ccd isnt way much better then cmos....(i thought every expensive cameras had ccd !!! ..i was realy realy wrong...........
you find CMOS in many expensive cameras .....example EOS 1D Mark III & II use CMOS, (cost between 4000-8000 EURO)........and many many other big cameras have cmos.
so thats bullshit that ccd allways is better..
Again a "clever" guy comparing DSLR cameras with
huge CMOS sensors with camera phones with small CCD sensors. Talk about being confused about facts
Why don't we compare your K850i with the
Sony DSLR-A100 ????
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[ This Message was edited by: AbuBasim on 2007-11-09 09:07 ]
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Posted: 2007-11-09 10:04:34
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I think not even CCD or super-duper CMOS will help the K850 because SE insist on using cheap lens (so as to boost its profit). See the picture below with its "purple fringing". And no firmware update can correct this.
http://mobilarena.hu/dl/rev/2007-09/1716/k850i6.jpg
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Posted: 2007-11-09 10:05:20
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On 2007-11-09 10:04:34, AbuBasim wrote:
On 2007-11-09 09:51:02, plankgatan wrote:
i also thought that CCD was much better then cmos...but now when i know the fact. thats bollocks.....
ccd isnt way much better then cmos....(i thought every expensive cameras had ccd !!! ..i was realy realy wrong...........
you find CMOS in many expensive cameras .....example EOS 1D Mark III & II use CMOS, (cost between 4000-8000 EURO)........and many many other big cameras have cmos.
so thats bullshit that ccd allways is better..
Again a "clever" guy comparing DSLR cameras with
huge CMOS sensors with camera phones with small CCD sensors. Talk about being confused about facts
that was NOT my point........my point was that cmos can be better (even i small cameras)
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i dont realy care which sensor it have....i know that k850 take awesome pictures....thats good enough for me..(and if you dont believe me, see the k850 thread ...he he
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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2007-11-09 09:10 ]
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Posted: 2007-11-09 10:06:55
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On 2007-11-09 10:06:55, plankgatan wrote:
that was NOT my point........my point was that cmos can be better (even i small cameras)
Why is there only
one CMOS-based
point-and-shoot camera on the market???? (The Kodak C513.) Because
small CMOS sensors produce sh*tty pictures, that's why! You were comparing small CCD sensors with DSLRs with huge CMOS sensors. Any sensor type, when large enough, will produce very good photos.
Why doesn't Hasselblad put tiny CMOS sensors in their digital backs? Because they would be the laughing stock of the camera market!
i dont realy care which sensor it have....i know that k850 take awesome pictures....thats good enough for me..(and if you dont believe me, see the k850 thread ...he he
Your 0.45 MP (778x584) photos in that thread are very impressive!
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[ This Message was edited by: AbuBasim on 2007-11-09 09:14 ]
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Posted: 2007-11-09 10:11:51
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DarKMaGiCiaN Posts: > 500
Hey, Mr Party-pooper. Go away if you just want to spoil the fun!
where is the fun in my post ??
if you think my post is not nessesary and it just out of the topic
then I'll delete it and I'm sorry for that
otherwise please correct what I wrote ^_^
Why don't we compare your K850i with the Sony DSLR-A100 ????
hehehe I know someone who alrady compared his i-mobile 902 with the Canon EOS 300D ^_*
I think not even CCD or super-duper CMOS will help the K850 because SE insist on using cheap lens (so as to boost its profit). See the picture below with its "purple fringing". And no firmware update can correct this.
you are correct in this point and I really want to see a sonyericsson mobile phone with a carl zeiss lens
but if sonyericsson do that then how many people gonna buy it ?
lots of people will say "yes this is my next mobile phone but when it release I'm sure that they will say this mobile phone is costly
I think sonyericsson dont want to repeat s700 and w900 story
they are one of the best mobile phones sonyericsson ever released but how many people bought it ?
I have a question?
why japanese people have great mobile phones from sonyericsson ?
[ This Message was edited by: DarKMaGiCiaN on 2007-11-09 10:12 ]
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Posted: 2007-11-09 11:06:46
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On 2007-11-09 10:11:51, AbuBasim wrote:
On 2007-11-09 10:06:55, plankgatan wrote:
that was NOT my point........my point was that cmos can be better (even i small cameras)
Why is there only
one CMOS-based
point-and-shoot camera on the market???? (The Kodak C513.) Because
small CMOS sensors produce sh*tty pictures, that's why! You were comparing small CCD sensors with DSLRs with huge CMOS sensors. Any sensor type, when large enough, will produce very good photos.
Why doesn't Hasselblad put tiny CMOS sensors in their digital backs? Because they would be the laughing stock of the camera market!
i dont realy care which sensor it have....i know that k850 take awesome pictures....thats good enough for me..(and if you dont believe me, see the k850 thread ...he he
Your 0.45 MP (778x584) photos in that thread are very impressive!
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[ This Message was edited by: AbuBasim on 2007-11-09 09:14 ]
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like you know you can only show pictures in 800 x 600 here on Esato forum....
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i can show you many many pictures in full size...most of them still looks good.
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i HAVE show full size pictures before...so why are you nagging about this silly shit.
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why i dont lay up my pictures with ex, Imageshack, is because it take more time and its realy boring work
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why dont you show us some pictures from your own cell phone....
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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2007-11-09 10:56 ]
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Posted: 2007-11-09 11:50:24
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On 2007-11-09 11:50:24, plankgatan wrote:
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like you know you can only show pictures in 800 x 600 here on Esato forum....
Yes, but you don't leave it up to Esato to do the scaling. You're scaling your photos intentionally to an even smaller size. I wonder why...?
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i can show you many many pictures in full size...most of them still looks good.
That is debatable.
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i HAVE show full size pictures before...so why are you nagging about this silly shit.
Silly shit? Surely you must mean "silly sh*t"!
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why i dont lay up my pictures with ex, Imageshack, is because it take more time and its realy boring work
Look up on the right of this page. Do you see the "Photos" link there? You have already posted a few of your thumbnail-sized snaps there a few times before. It doesn't take more time to post your snaps there, than it takes to post directly in this thread.
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why dont you show us some pictures from your own cell phone....
I have posted a few samples
here in the Photos section,
ALL in full size, and also in
this thread, where you for example can look at
this post where I make a small comparison of my camera phone with my old CANON 300D 6MP DSLR, and my post following that, where I compare the same camera phone with a Olympus C-350 P&S camera.
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Posted: 2007-11-09 12:28:18
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ok where we going with this people? lets TRY and stay on topic
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Posted: 2007-11-09 12:30:23
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On 2007-11-09 12:30:23, >500 wrote:
ok where we going with this people?
Look a few posts back and you'll see plankgatan's amazing comparison between camera phones and DSLRs. Then I apparently touched a sore spot when I nagged a bit about his tiny (but ultra-sharp and completely free of noise, that can't be denied!) photos.
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[ This Message was edited by: AbuBasim on 2007-11-09 11:40 ]
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Posted: 2007-11-09 12:38:52
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