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I wasn't dismissing 60fps I was saying 4K video is not much use on a 1080p screen. @moogoo to me it's not acceptable to release a product to the public unfinished. You advertise something as having BIONZ image processing etc yet it actually doesn't work till 1 to 2 months from now?? I've not heard Samsung do that. I know all phones have software issues but explain to me why Sony cannot release their said software as advertised which they have had for years?? You don't release a car with half it's engine capacity that they advertise do you?? Sony have had ages to work on this.
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[ This Message was edited by: Bonovox on 2013-09-06 14:18 ]
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Posted: 2013-09-06 15:16:00
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no one said bionz isn't working, it's just hasn't been tweaked to perfection. in all the sample photos i've seen, it seems to be working quite well in 8mp mode. it needs some tweaking in 20mp mode as pointed out by razec.
ages to work on it? come on now.. this sensor was built and designed specifically for the Z1. at most they've been working on it for a year, but I would guess less than a year. as I said, the images are quite amazing already and just need final tweaking to make it even better.
i'm not sure what you're complaining about. Everything advertised is there and working. Just as a car can be tuned to increase its performance, Sony is doing the same to the Z1.
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Posted: 2013-09-06 15:26:50
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You would have to check the high ISO(800 and above) samples to appreciate the Z1's camera performance. it's surpassing my expectations to be honest. I never really expected a less degraded photos from such a minuscule sensor at that ISO level. it does show alot of noise, but the image is still usable for some average sized prints
20MP + HTT On would surely be interesting
I hope the reviewers would shoot in this mode as well, if all is well this could be the ultimate night shot feature ever implemented on a mobile device
[ This Message was edited by: razec on 2013-09-06 14:38 ]
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Posted: 2013-09-06 15:34:31
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yah i'm interested in seeing HTT in action as well!
from what it sounds like, it's kinda like HDR on steroids?
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Posted: 2013-09-06 15:40:27
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HTT = handheld twilight mode, heralded as early as 2007/2008 by Sony T70 (I don't exactly recall the date, and I'm too lazy to google
) this works by using the camera's native high speed burst shooting (which in this case is available in Z1 as the bleeding fast timeshift burst 60fps/2seconds) and taking at least 6 high ISO photos in quick succession and micro stitching/aligning them as a combined single image. since Noise comes out randomly the details lost on a single frame can be possibly recovered by the next frame, so the 6 photos will combine to recover the missing details while maintaining good exposure and fast shutter speed. which is why it has "handheld" in its name
given that Z1 can burst more frames than possible I hope they would do at least twice the frame count of the typical HHT shot so it can perform much better in maintaining details.
if Z1's implementation is as good as the cybershot cameras' an ISO 1000 20mp image with HHT enabled would yield similar quality to its typical performance at low ISO
this is the main reason I was really keen over Z1's camera at the first place
[ This Message was edited by: razec on 2013-09-06 15:05 ]
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Posted: 2013-09-06 15:48:29
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Z1 Loud Speaker sample...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq_KljVm87w
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Posted: 2013-09-06 15:52:31
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CrownedAkuma Posts: > 500
I was searching for a video like this but I need to hear it live:/ or read some serious opinion
Still it sounds good, a bit lower than I expected...
I would also love to see the Notification Led in a video...!!
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Posted: 2013-09-06 16:05:48
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@Bono
As you can see, the images are already good thanks to the solid imaging hardware. After the software upgrade the software processing will catch up with the hardware and provide even better results.
BIONZ still works, just that it will work even better.
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Posted: 2013-09-06 16:07:44
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A favor to all Z1 early adopters, indoor full size 20mp + HTT please
Also some full size daylight samples would be highly appreciated as well
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Posted: 2013-09-06 16:20:33
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Razec, daylight photos taken with manual mode
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Posted: 2013-09-06 16:23:58
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