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On 2007-06-01 18:57:50, plankgatan wrote:
Swedish Steel last longest.......he he
one thing im thinking about is that nations like USA, Germany & Sweden makes products with absolutely best quality. (if i may say so)
i mean stuff like cars, computers, HIFI, HI-Tech and of course cell phones, BUT its one "thing" Germany & USA cant "fix", and thats of course cell phones.
have USA some good cell phone brand ?
(England also makes things with really high quality, maybe not biggest on computers/cell phones, but other things, like their cars, Aston Martins)
[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2007-06-01 18:03 ]
Time for the mods to come close this thread. It has become stupid. Note enclosed post as proof.
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Posted: 2007-06-01 22:13:08
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@sapp et al.,
I'm beginning to think s/he's just a brilliant comedian! It's all just irony/satire/p*sstake...
American cars... That's the giveaway! It's all good!
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Posted: 2007-06-01 22:46:14
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On 2007-06-01 22:08:50, QVGA wrote:
american brand cars? Ford anyone? need i explain what junk they make?
That's quite enough of that. Besides being (mostly) false, what does that have to do with the topic of the thread?
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Posted: 2007-06-01 23:23:50
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On 2007-06-01 23:23:50, Hlcn Twst wrote:
On 2007-06-01 22:08:50, QVGA wrote:
american brand cars? Ford anyone? need i explain what junk they make?
That's quite enough of that. Besides being (mostly) false, what does that have to do with the topic of the thread?
good point. As you all know, I don't support the thrust of the argument in this thread, but the last few posts where people have criticised this or that nation's manufacturing ability is just plain rude and unnecessary.
The US is still one of the strongest manufacturing powerhouses in the world, even given the massive offload of production to countries like china, japan, korea etc.
In terms of build quality (though not necessarily features) Motorola are better by a small margin than SE. I'm an SE loyalist and even I accept that. That doesn't mean SE are crap btw

They are still well built in my opinion.
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Posted: 2007-06-02 02:37:43
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ok, what i mean is like this. (off topic).
my family has a -68 Ford mustang, (have a lot of friends who have old US/(swedish/germany) cars as well).
for example, try to start a Nissan, Mazda, etc, etc, who is 40 years old when its -20 C coold outside (it want start if it warm either, he he), you never have to think about if the Mustang (40 years old) gone start or not, just turn the dame key and brroommn its start. (try to do that on an 40 years old Mazda, he he) THATS QUALITY my friends. also we have example toys who is +50 years (for my daughter) from Germany/sweden, they looks/works perfect, THATS quality.
do you guys know how ex, Kawazaki, Nicon, Mazda, Canon, etc, etc, etc made theirs products ? (i know). on ~ 1950 Japanes companys bought one Hasselblad camera, one Leica, etc, etc, etc, (and yes, Hasselblad is still the best camera in the world). then they pick down this cameras into the smallest parts, and then just serie manufacture all small parts in millions pieces, then they put it together. and voila there you hade your Nicon, kawazaki, suzuki, etc, etc. Mazda, etc..
or do you guys think they came upp with the ideas by them self ?
[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2007-06-02 09:44 ]
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Posted: 2007-06-02 10:41:56
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On 2007-06-02 10:41:56, plankgatan wrote:
ok, what i mean is like this. (off topic).
my family has a -68 Ford mustang, (have a lot of friends who have old US/(swedish/germany) cars as well).
for example, try to start a Nissan, Mazda, etc, etc, who is 40 years old when its -20 C coold outside (it want start if it warm either, he he), you never have to think about if the Mustang (40 years old) gone start or not, just turn the dame key and brroommn its start. (try to do that on an 40 years old Mazda, he he) THATS QUALITY my friends. also we have example toys who is +50 years (for my daughter) from Germany/sweden, they looks/works perfect, THATS quality.
do you guys know how ex, Kawazaki, Nicon, Mazda, Canon, etc, etc, etc made theirs products ? (i know). on ~ 1950 Japanes companys bought one Hasselblad camera, one Leica, etc, etc, etc, (and yes, Hasselblad is still the best camera in the world). then they pick down this cameras into the smallest parts, and then just serie manufacture all small parts in millions pieces, then they put it together. and voila there you hade your Nicon, kawazaki, suzuki, etc, etc. Mazda, etc..
or do you guys think they came upp with the ideas by them self ?
[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2007-06-02 09:44 ]
we are not discussing cars, stick to the topic.
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Posted: 2007-06-02 11:05:09
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Does any one know why SE left the AF and macro of the w850? And is it me that the k810 looks abnormaly wide?
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Posted: 2007-06-02 11:33:54
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In terms of build quality (though not necessarily features) Motorola are better by a small margin than SE. I'm an SE loyalist and even I accept that. That doesn't mean SE are crap btw

They are still well built in my opinion.
I disagree and agree with you on a few things in this thread Max. SE could be making better and innovative phones rather than recycling what they currently have and using outdated technology, i.e. 802.11B. This alone tells me that they are not really trying. The 802.11G standard is over two years old, but SE chose to stick to something outdated. Anyway, in the area of innovation and technology advancement, Nokia is moving forward with SE marking time. Clearly the Nokia high-end phones and even their middle market phones are equal to if not better than the current (I say current for a reason) SE crop out there. After SE decided that they would not support Macintosh (my preferred computing platform) but Nokia embraced it, this sealed the deal for me that SE is not interested in moving forward but content with the status quo. Right now, almost all Nokia phones are supported on the Mac platform which some SE with all the work being done but third parties rather than SE (When I contacted them to ask about support, they said that I should contact Apple, but I said they make computers and not phones, SE still said it was Apples job to support their phones. How stupid is this?) engineers. SE once again shows that they are not a leader but a follower and also ran.
I am not an phone manufacture loyalist, but a loyalist to technology that works for me with the least amount of hassle and efficiently. Nokia fits this bill to a T with SE no where to be found.
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Posted: 2007-06-02 11:48:00
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Whats an 802.11G please i am confused with the term. I am normally very hot on technology but i am not sure what it means. Thanks.
This message was posted from a 6233
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Posted: 2007-06-02 20:34:10
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On 2007-06-02 20:34:10, Seanyb2 wrote:
Whats an 802.11G please i am confused with the term. I am normally very hot on technology but i am not sure what it means. Thanks.
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its transfer speeds. G is 54MBPS and B is 12MBPS. Please correct me if wrong.
BTW i am talking about WiFi. 802.11 is WiFi. AKA Wireless LAN
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Posted: 2007-06-02 21:51:49
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