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Please guys, return to the main topic (Rumours) this thread becomes so annoying and useless in these last pages...
If you have discussions regarding which technology is better then open a new topic and don't ruin this one...
I bet there's a lot of peoples here don't know to which point we reached because all of these Off-Topics... can some one please re-post the sum of all info we have now ?
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Posted: 2012-08-05 08:25:52
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Ricky D updates the first post in this thread with the latest information, if anyone wants to catch up on all the interesting stuff, that's the first place to look.
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Posted: 2012-08-05 09:06:06
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Lets talk about rumors and not bla bla quad core better or bad screen because of viewing angles those has noting to do with this topic.
On 2011-12-26 10:34:27, Ricky D wrote:
Note to all: work is in progress, expect improvements here all year round. If any info is missing, large or small, PM me or write it up in the thread and I'll insert it appropriately. Should wish to make any info public anonymously PM me also.
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Welcome to the Sony/Sony Ericsson rumours 2012
This year we know Sony and Ericsson are ending their joint venture and the Sony Ericsson brand will be phased out which means hopefully a bumper year for rumours, devices and overall excitement.
Rumours / News
Handset Rumours
Accessory Rumours
Announcements
Upcoming Announcements
Interviews
Misc
Rumours / News
3rd Aug - Xperia Masona appears on various UK e-tailers for ~£200 (
page 229)
3rd Aug - LT30 to be named Xperia T (
page 229)
26h Jul - a Mint LT30p preview articles start to appear with photos (
page 214)
23rd Jul - LT30p pops up on nenamark with a healthy score of 60.10 and 1.5GHz with adreno 225, confirms 720p screen (
page 211)
6th Jul - New rumours on hayabusa and mint (
page 199)
13th Jun - Xperia Miro announced via facebook
8th Jun - "Nice surprise" coming next week
30th May - Xperia Arco S and Xperia Go waterproof handsets announced
9th May - Xperia GX and Xperia SX for the Japan only handsets announced and point towards the specs for world releases later in the year (http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=203113&start=1800)
5th May - Whispers from xda say Hayabusa to have plastic body and chrome highlighted edging, mint to have aluminium, announcment due 19th June (
page 118)
27th Apr - Xperia SX details rumoured (
page 109)
26th Apr - Host of LT29i Hayabusa rumours coming through including a spyshot (
page 107).
24th Apr - Announcement invitations sent out for May 2nd Press Day (
page 106)
23rd Mar - We can expect a all new qwerty sometime this year (
page 92)
20th Mar - announcement of Xperia Neo L, specs look like the Xperia Play but in a slimmer body without the slide out controls, announcement suggests it's an emerging market handset (
page92)
13th Mar - Xperia Sola MT27i announced sporting new 'floating touch' technology (
press release)
10th Mar - MT27i Pepper appears in Sony China site but is swiftly removed (
page 84)
26th Feb - Xperia P and Xperia U announced as rumoured at MWC12
20th Feb - A whole bunch of leaked images of what seems to be Xperia U/kumquat/ST25i (
page 64)
19th Feb - Sony WhiteMagic screens rumoured to be included on upcoming Xperia P. This means brighter screens and better battery performance
10th Feb - leaked picture of an unannounced mini handset (
page 59)
4th Feb - "Xperia Sola" trademark gets filed by Sony
31st Jan - Xperia P appears alongside LT22i in Indian FCC equivalent documents
26th Jan - EU regulatory boards approve Son's buyout of Ericsson's share of Sony Ericsson, all this year's phones will be 'Sony' branded
18th Jan - This years's price/release roadmap of devices leaks (
page 47)
16th Jan - An image appeared in Sweden of what appears to be 3-4 new devices, supposedly LT29i, Nypon, global version of Ion (
page 45)
9th Jan - All the new handsets this year will carry the Sony logo NOT Sony Ericsson /
8th Jan - Nozomi leaked as Xperia S and another device to be named Xperia Ion
8th Jan - Leaked pics of MT27i 'Pepper'
7th Jan - hint of a 'big boy' to appear at MWC NOT CES
6th Jan - Teasers from various public Sony and Sony Ericsson fronts suggest a Walkman Z mobile phone variant to come soon
6th Jan - More pics of LT26 appear this time with specs of 1.5GHz dual-core, 1GB RAM and Gingerbread (4.0 to come later) (
page14)
5th Jan - Sony to revive an old sliding keyboard tablet design with updated specs (
page 11)
30th Dec - "Xperia Ion" name appears in the US Trademark filings
30th Dec - Nozomi to have a 1 or 2 letter official name
Know more?
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Handset Rumours (in order of rumoured release)
Olive - - updated 18th Jan€308June release
Hayabusa - LT29i - updated 5th MayInternational release of Xperia GX~4.5" screen 720pnon-LTE version of Mint131 x 69 x 10.5 mm - 127g1GB RAM (but we wouldn't expect anything less)1.5GHz MSM8960 Snapdragon S4 28mm chip (or even the MSM8960 Pro)2nd Gen Exmor R 13MP with HDR and RGBWPlastic body with chrome effect top and sides~€49319th June (CommunicAsia) announcementJuly releasePics
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ST26i - updated 10th May4.0" qHD (seems big for an ST handset)1 ghz U8500Android 4.0512MB RAM8GB internal memoryCould be Olive?
Lotus - - updated 18th Jan€277August release
Atlas - - updated 18th Jan€293September release
Mint - LT30 - Xperia T - updated 5th AugQualcomm S4 MSM8960 1.5GHz1GB RAM129 x 68 x 09.0 mm - 140g13MP cam16GB internal4.6" screenAluminium body€562September release
Odin - Play 2 - updated: 31st Jan Specs unknown
Xperia Duo - updated April 6thName is tradmarked but not used yetApplied for trademark (again) by Sony Mobile (NOT SEMC) in March 2012, might just be held in reserve for future use or to help create rumours
Pureness IISupposedly fixed batterynothing else knownProbably cancelled
Tapioca - ST21 - Xperia Tipo and Xperia Tipo Dual announced 13th June
AFFM - ??? - Xperia miro - announced 13th June
??? - ??? - Xperia Arco S -
announced 30th May
??? - ??? - Xperia Go -
announced 30th May
Pepper - MT27i - Xperia Sola -
announced 13th Mar
Nypon - LT22 - Xperia P -
announced 26th Jan
Kumquat - ST28 - Xperia U -
announced 26th Jan
Aoba - LT28at - Xperia Ion -
announced 9th Jan
Nozomi - LT26i - Xperia S -
Announced 9th Jan
Know more?
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Accessories Rumours
A new watch for CES (
source)A new headset for CES
Know more?
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Announcements
8th May Xperia GX & Xperia SX13th Mar Xperia SolaMWC 26th Jan Xperia PMWC 26th Jan Xperia UCES 9th Jan Xperia NX - Japan only
9th Jan Xperia arco HD - Japan only updated Arco
9th Jan Xperia S -
press release -
Esato threadCES 9th Jan Xperia Ion -
press release -
Esato thread
Upcoming Announcements
29th August is the new new supposed date for hayabusa and mint
Know more?
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Interviews
28th FebSony Mobile and PS NOT working together on new phone. Playstation phone will come from PS department.
18th JanBert Nordberg having a chat with CNN - he discusses among other things the Sony situation (
page 49)
Know more?
Tell me!
Misc
Know more?
Tell me!
[ This Message was edited by: Ricky D on 2012-08-05 03:24 ]
[ This Message was edited by: worf1000 on 2012-08-05 09:08 ]
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Posted: 2012-08-05 10:06:21
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You really didn't need to quote the whole first page post.
Back on topic...
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Posted: 2012-08-05 10:44:28
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Just stumbled on a developer forum about the PSMobile SDK which uses mono (an open sourced .NET), the SDK is ver 0.9 so the final release is very close. I do hope PSMoble proves to be a better game platform than android itself. it's annoying that not all android games would run on an android device when Google itself told everyone that Android apps are cross platform, but now we have games that would only run specifically on a tegra or Snapdragon. that's one reason why iOS is miles ahead of Android in game development. hopefully the final release of PSM would solve this.
btw @randomuser, will gaikai be licensed to other brands or just for Sony itself?
[ This Message was edited by: razec on 2012-08-05 10:17 ]
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Posted: 2012-08-05 11:16:05
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I am not sure but from what little I've heard and my own guess, it will be exclusive to Sony.
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Posted: 2012-08-05 11:44:32
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Looking forward to seeing the Mint. And just for the record I think Sony make amazing phone displays nicer and more natural than AMOLED.
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Posted: 2012-08-05 11:53:00
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On 2012-08-05 11:44:32, randomuser wrote:
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I am not sure but from what little I've heard and my own guess, it will be exclusive to Sony.
I personally think it's a wise decision, as Sony needs to exercise all their strengths to compete in the aggressive smartphone market. having the ability to play very high quality game content on an Xperia/Bravia/PSVita will boost their image especially since PS4 is said to pack some serious punch in the HW and the game experience are expected to be miles better.
about the display issue everyone's arguing about, while it's true that
was behind everyone on the 16M during those times, one must not forget that
's 65K and 256K displays are far superior than everything has to offer that time. just to refresh everyone's mind here and to prove that Sony was not "always" behind in the display department:
C905 (256K) vs N95 (16M)
W995 (256K, Regular LCD) vs Nokia N86 8mp (AMOLED 16M)
K850 (256K) vs Xperia X1 (65K )
C902 (256K) vs 6300 classic (16.7M)
W580 (256K) vs Samsung U600 (16M)
K770 (256K) vs 6120Classic (16M)
K660 vs 6300 -
some pictures credit to Amras here in esato
also Eldar commends
displays during those times, stating that they're market's best. honestly If sony could bring Crystal LED on a mobile screen It will be better than using OLEDs, as CrystalLEDs have longer lifespan and warmer colors (perfect for movies and games) OLEDs are typically bluish
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Yes, I agree that in the past SE phones used to have the best displays, but not any more. When I compare my Xperia Pro with my W910, the results are the same as in razec's first picture - N95 vs C905 ( W910 is C905 in this case ). Or, ok, not that bad, but Pro's display isn't any better than W910's. And it definitely even has worse viewing angles. So it's got worse.
[ This Message was edited by: mediar on 2012-08-05 12:09 ]
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^^ I think it has something to do with brightness mate: 16M mode gives more brightness than a regular 256K unit, and with LCD's science, more brightness = less contrast, if Sony would make their screens just bright enough and not too much, then I think they can be as good as the
displays of the past. besides I'm pretty sure not everyone turns their display at full brightness as it would be suicidal to their eyes, my friend's Galaxy SII was too bright when in full brightness and he typically only use half of it.
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Posted: 2012-08-05 13:34:49
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