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There are few japanese companies heavily involved in the Galaxy F development.
http://m.etnews.com/201811090[....]oid2ViIHRvIG1vYmlsZSI7fQ%3D%3D[ This Message was edited by: Moe87 on 2018-11-15 00:04 ]
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Posted: 2018-11-15 01:01:56
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On 2018-11-14 23:25:48, vivftp wrote:
On 2018-11-14 22:22:09, -XYZ wrote:
On 2018-11-14 19:18:43, vivftp wrote:
What I'm curious about is whether Sony will have a folding display ready for next years Premium.
Not sure if you're joking or not.
Given Sony's track record, I would highly doubt it.
Nah, why would I be joking? We know from earlier reports that Sony and LG Display were working on folding displays, and before that Sony's been working on them since forever. Wherever Sony sourced the XZ3 display from (be it JDI or LG), they obviously have the capability of curving OLED displays. And we even have the Royole FlexPai out there with a folding screen ahead of Samsung's own offering. I wouldn't be surprised if we see other companies with folding displays next year, it's just a question of when Sony will have theirs ready.
Oh there definitely will be other companies making folding phones. I just doubt Sony will.
Sony and Google (HTC as well I guess) were the companies that were the slowest at slimming down bezels on their smartphones. Google is understandable, they're new to making their own hardware. HTC is a shell of a company. Sony is a tech GIANT, and they took SO LONG to get to the XZ3 bezels, and even then, they are far from the slimmest bezels you'll see on a smartphone. Particularly the forehead and chin (which pointless has the Sony logo on the front).
With such a track record on doing something relatively easy - reducing bezel width. Why would Sony sink a proportionally much greater amount of money to develop a phone that folds.
Heck. You may even be right. Sony might surprise everyone and steal Samsung's show with a folding phone. I'm just not holding my breath.
More to the point. I'd rather Sony just totally restructure their smartphone division.
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Posted: 2018-11-15 01:57:02
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It's about the executive board
Seem like none of them are being serious about mobile division.
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Posted: 2018-11-15 02:18:40
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On 2018-11-15 01:57:02, -XYZ wrote:
Oh there definitely will be other companies making folding phones. I just doubt Sony will.
Sony and Google (HTC as well I guess) were the companies that were the slowest at slimming down bezels on their smartphones. Google is understandable, they're new to making their own hardware. HTC is a shell of a company. Sony is a tech GIANT, and they took SO LONG to get to the XZ3 bezels, and even then, they are far from the slimmest bezels you'll see on a smartphone. Particularly the forehead and chin (which pointless has the Sony logo on the front).
With such a track record on doing something relatively easy - reducing bezel width. Why would Sony sink a proportionally much greater amount of money to develop a phone that folds.
Heck. You may even be right. Sony might surprise everyone and steal Samsung's show with a folding phone. I'm just not holding my breath.
More to the point. I'd rather Sony just totally restructure their smartphone division.
Slimming down the bezels has never been a technological limitation, but a design choice limitation. Sony could have slimmed the bezels along with everyone else if they wanted to, but chose not to. Heck, they were already ahead of the curve with the Xperia ZL back in 2013.
Anyways, folding phones are coming and are going to be a major part of smartphones going forward. They're going to gobble up the small size tablet market (whatever's left of it), so having a plan for a folding phone has to be on pretty much every manufacturers drawing board by now. We know Sony's been working on flexible displays for a long time, and we know from previous articles that Sony and LG Display are working on a folding display. So with all of that, why wouldn't Sony have something to show assuming they're able to get all the parts together? We've got new mobile management that's saying we'll begin to see the fruits of their new efforts come MWC 2019, so I think it's on the table.
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Posted: 2018-11-15 02:20:43
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I feel worried by the durability of a fordable phone.
The body, not screen.
Oled is still too expensive, while LCD gets cheaper and cheaper.
That kind of phone won't be the major type.
I doubt any company can offer that below $1000 any soon.
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Posted: 2018-11-15 03:23:22
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On 2018-11-14 09:13:48, XperiaJunkie wrote:
So if a told you all that Sony are working on a 5G device with a 4K HDR OLED display with quad cameras (2 front + 2 rear) with the 2nd gen AUBE fusion processor to be available by the end of Q1 who'd get excited?
Naaahhhh, I'm more interested in the 12GB RAM phone that ADIDA spoke of.
But seriously, coming from you, this is great news and I hope we get a new Premium with specs you mention and hopefully without the Omnibalance design. I also hope we finally get a
4K@60fps HDR capability. Please keep us posted about this phone.
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Posted: 2018-11-15 07:24:11
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12GB RAM is Fake
6 and 8GB
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Posted: 2018-11-15 07:39:52
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Problem with 4K60 is the fact that electronic stabilization does not work.
This applies to all phones.
No matter if they have OIS, it is useless in this situation.
Samples from S9, OP6 and U12 are too shaky....
Phones don't have processing power enough to record that high bitrate while keep it steady.
I have no idea if a mobile version of IBIS can be done.
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Posted: 2018-11-15 10:28:31
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On 2018-11-15 07:39:52, ADIDA wrote:
12GB RAM is Fake
You don't say!?
On 2018-11-15 10:28:31, Moe87 wrote:
Problem with 4K60 is the fact that electronic stabilization does not work.
This applies to all phones.
No matter if they have OIS, it is useless in this situation.
Samples from S9, OP6 and U12 are too shaky....
Phones don't have processing power enough to record that high bitrate while keep it steady.
I have no idea if a mobile version of IBIS can be done.
4K@60 fps is already possible with some phones so I think the main obstacle you're referring to is not a major issue. The thing is, no phone is offering
4K@60fps with HDR. I am hoping S855 will support this.
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Posted: 2018-11-15 13:29:03
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Yes...
A12 and SD845 are capable of 4K60.
The problem is that no brand so far could apply EIS for this mode.
4K60 HDR , I think it won't show up before 2021.
CPUs took 4 years to reach 4K60 and HDR needs more hardware.
SD845 alone can record HDR 10, which only LG decided to offer.
The 4k HDR HLG of Sony needs the DRAM sensor. S9 can't because of exynos version, so the Snapdragon device gets capped.
It is 24fps only ( probably hardware limitation because it is a lot of data to process).
The exynos for S10 according to them can do
4K@150 and
8K@30.
Of course it would make phone hotter than the sun.
8K requires at least 33 MP.
I hope Sony puts more DRAM inside sensors.
4K ISO 12800 or
4K@960 would be insanely awesome.
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Posted: 2018-11-15 16:37:38
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