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Very interesting to see that there the only buildings standing (Allah’s work?). But I would have to take into consideration the flattened buildings materials in comparison to the mosques. I know it say’s
“As the disbelievers start to attribute the survival of these mosques to their materials of construction rather than to Allah's hand, they continue to linger in their disbelief. Even this logic is faulty. For instance a mosque in Sigli that was made out of wood survived unscathed while all the buildings around it were destroyed”
but you got to take into account the aero-dynamics as all these mosques are roughly the same.
(I’m just trying to justify it, as an non believer, sorry. But I cant help but wonder
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Posted: 2005-07-14 21:30:47
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In the interests of religious toleration and greater harmony between members here, perhaps we could use this thread to post information about different religions and ways of life.
If we can have one person from each religion and way of life prepared to post some information on their beliefs it would be a very informative and enlightening experience in my opinion.
Can I have volunteers for the following please?
Baha'i
Buddhism
Christianity
Catholic
Christian Science
Eastern Orthodox
Mormon
Protestant
Quaker
Falun Gong
Hinduism
Islam (although Peter Kay has already given us a wonderful insight into Islam)
Jainism
Judaism
Nation of Islam
Pagan & Earth-Based
Scientology
Secular Philosophies
Shinto
Sikhism
Taoism (I shall volunteer for this one)
Unitarian Universalist
Zoroastrianism
If there are any other religions or ways of life that anyone follows then please feel free to also volunteer to post information on those too.
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Posted: 2005-07-14 21:42:51
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some of those i have never even heard of
i would be interested to learn about different religions aswell
great idea scosboyuk
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Posted: 2005-07-14 21:58:15
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On 2005-07-14 21:42:51, scotsboyuk wrote:
In the interests of religious toleration and greater harmony between members here, perhaps we could use this thread to post information about different religions and ways of life.
If we can have one person from each religion and way of life prepared to post some information on their beliefs it would be a very informative and enlightening experience in my opinion.
Can I have volunteers for the following please?
Baha'i
Buddhism
Christianity
Catholic
Christian Science
Eastern Orthodox
Mormon
Protestant
Quaker
Falun Gong
Hinduism
Islam (although Peter Kay has already given us a wonderful insight into Islam)
Jainism
Judaism
Nation of Islam
Pagan & Earth-Based
Scientology
Secular Philosophies
Shinto
Sikhism
Taoism (I shall volunteer for this one)
Unitarian Universalist
Zoroastrianism
If there are any other religions or ways of life that anyone follows then please feel free to also volunteer to post information on those too.
Good idea, it's good to know what people believe.
Didn't know there was so many different beliefs
We learn something new everyday.
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Posted: 2005-07-14 22:02:41
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taoism
so what is this then scots
never heard of this belief
please enlighten me
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Posted: 2005-07-14 22:04:50
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@scotsboyuk, what is Taoism? what do you believe?
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Posted: 2005-07-14 22:05:40
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Taoism/Daoism
The first thing I would like to do is link to the Tao Te Ching, which you can find
here.
The Tao Te Ching is the seminal work of Taoism, it explains and encapsulates what Taoism is. The Tao Te Ching is organised into 81 chapters, each dealing with a different aspect of the Tao.
The Tao is all and nothing. It is everything we can imagine and everything we cannot. It is unknowable yet we are of it. The Tao is all that has been; all that is; and all that will be. It is both life and death; light and dark; day and night; existence and nothingness.
Tao means 'The Way'. The 1st chapter of the Tao Te Ching says of The Way:
The Way that can be experienced is not true;
The world that can be constructed is not real.
The Way manifests all that happens and may happen;
The world represents all that exists and may exist.
To experience without abstraction is to sense the world;
To experience with abstraction is to know the world.
These two experiences are indistinguishable;
Their construction differs but their effect is the same.
Beyond the gate of experience flows the Way,
Which is ever greater and more subtle than the world.
Taoism stresses the importance of naturalness, of acting in harmony with that natural order of things. Taoists seek to practice Wu Wei, which means 'creative inaction'. This is a process, by which one acts so in harmony with the natural order that one's actions are not perceptible as actions.
Of 'Without Action' the Tao Te Ching says:
Not praising the worthy prevents contention,
Not esteeming the valuable prevents theft,
Not displaying the beautiful prevents desire.
In this manner the sage governs people:
Emptying their minds,
Filling their bellies,
Weakening their ambitions,
And strengthening their bones.
If people lack knowledge and desire
Then they can not act;
If no action is taken
Harmony remains.
Wu Wei is not laziness or a lack of will to act, rather it is action, which achieves the best possible result using the least possible effort. Beliefnet.com describes Wu Wei thusly:
Quote:So wu wei is not non-action but effortless action. It is action without meddlesome, contentious, or egotistical exertion. It's the effortless action that results from combining your inner nature (P’u and Te) with the natural laws operating around you. In short, it is being in harmony with the Tao.
This is the essence of Taosim, to be in harmony with the Tao.
One must first learn to sense the Tao before one can harmonise with it. When one is in harmony with the Tao one finds that the correct action will find you, this is Wu Wei.
Wu Wei does not come through ego or forcefullness. It comes through patience and harmony. Knowledge is not the key to Wu Wei, knowledge is cleverness, which seeks to find better ways to do things. Wu Wei is not about effort or force, it requires no thought. It simply is. Taoism teaches us not to try, but to do or to do not. Nature does not try, it does or does not.
This is a very important aspect of Taoism because to practice Wu Wei we must let go. Nature takes the path of least resistance and this is Wu Wei; with Wu Wei nothing much seems to happen, but things get done. Trying too hard will lead to failure.
You may wonder why I focus so much on Wu Wei, I shall tell you. Wu Wei is the key to harmony. To practice Wu Wei is to act with effortlessness and be in harmony with the Tao. This leads to natural action and allows one to traverse the Way. It is abalnce and acceptance, understanding and compassion.
Desire is something that Taoists seek to let go of. Desire leads to suffering. Taoists seek simplicity in their lives. Desire is a want, it is something that leads one to conflict and disharmony. One must learn to let go.
When one acts in harmony with the Tao one acts with compassion, understanding and wisdom. One learns to accept life and maintain balance.
If anyone has any specific questions please do not hesitate to ask and I will do my best to answer.
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"I may be drunk my dear woman, but in the morning I will be sober, and you will still be ugly." WSC
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Posted: 2005-07-14 22:41:24
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I think I read somewhere that someone had also managed to register being a 'Jedi' as an official religion!
And you can actually register yourself as a follower of this 'religion' and put it on application forms etc.
On a different note, I'd also like to thank PeterKay for his wonderful and informative insights into Islam and the Holy Quran, very interesting to get insight into this religion which hasn't been bent and distorted by the tabloids and the media.
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Posted: 2005-07-14 23:24:44
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@Sammy_boy
'Jedi' is not an official religion, although anyone is perfectly entitled to affiliate themselves with it. There was a mistaken belief that if enough people entered 'Jedi' on their census forms it would be recognised as an official religion, but this is not the case. Rather it is simply counted as being 'of no-religion'.
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Posted: 2005-07-14 23:32:24
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On 2005-07-14 22:41:24, scotsboyuk wrote:
Taoism/Daoism
The first thing I would like to do is link to the Tao Te Ching, which you can find
here.
A Daoist resource I like is
here. On the site are some good English translations, A good Chinese rendition and a pile of screensavers, themes and such.
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Posted: 2005-07-14 23:39:39
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