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alexander87 Posts: 225

ramu went apple? wow, I think I died inside a little
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Posted: 2014-05-30 13:14:31
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mzr7 Posts: 42

You know that it could also be that since the z3 won't have a 5.5 inch panel that is why makes sense to have 1080p

Maybe the next z ultra will have it? all the other rumours of the htc prime and s5 prime didn't they also have a 5.5 inch display at 1440p?

Either way the qhd display shouldn't be the priority for Sony this year leave it till the next, they should focus on fixing software namely the camera software z2 is pretty much spot on in terms of the hardware software lets it down at times.

Personal opinion I think Sony would be smart to keep its flagship in the 5-5.2 range beyond that is phablet territory, if this keeps going on in a few years the compact will have a display around 5inches :/
[ This Message was edited by: mzr7 on 2014-05-30 13:05 ]

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Posted: 2014-05-30 14:02:22
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amirprog Posts: > 500

@randomuser
Agreed.
is it possible that sony can't have 5.5" QHD for Z3 is because JDI closed a deal with Apple for a very high quantity of the panels so they had to put Sony on hold until next year's flagship?
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Posted: 2014-05-30 14:10:46
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AbhiD999 Posts: 215


On 2014-05-30 04:45:29, Wintermute wrote:
Not that this ends the debate or anything, but for those concerned about battery life of a 1440p display:

http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]show-promising-results_id56590

I would rather not believe that article. It's from some "unknown sources" and "unknown people".
Let's wait for official reviews and battery tests and than see what happens.
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Posted: 2014-05-30 14:16:35
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alexander87 Posts: 225

I'd dig a QHD display on the Z Ultra successor, that would make it my ultimate e-book reader lol.
As for a display size of around 5.2 - 5.5 inch, meh 1080p is cool for now, it provides a sufficient pixel density.

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Posted: 2014-05-30 15:27:05
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Tsepz_GP Posts: > 500


On 2014-05-30 11:07:21, randomuser wrote:
To be frank even 1080p is not required on a mobile device. So whether or not something is actually "required" is not the point as most of the marketing junk by companies including Sony has simply no real utility to the consumers

It's about being on par with the competition, we all know what happened with Sony ericsson when it decided to play safe and remain a generation behind the competition. Sony's sales are down to 8.8 million units now, it doesn't figure in the Top 10 global smartphone vendors list even.

In such a scenario to ditch the latest trend is anything but playing smart. The general customers are not Sony fanboys who are going to accept that 1440p is a waste and choose a 1080p Sony over 1440p Samsung and LG.

The main reason though why at this point Z3 isn't said to sport a QHD panel is lack of availability for Sony. So there is still a chance that they can come out with 1440p panel on Z3 but not a very bright chance though.
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2014-05-30 10:07 ]



+1. Exactly.

Heck, we would've been fine with WVGA (854x480) 4inch screens even.

There's a ton of things we don't 'NEED' in our smartphones that nobody complains about, I don't get why all the hostility with QHD displays in phones, when we didn't even need HD720P, we don't even need 4K video recording on smartphones, yet here we are. It's just the way tech is moving, everything is getting better from batteries, CPUs/GPUs, Cameras, audio hardware, network speeds, software, UI etc... And its always best to try stay at the forefront, unless you have something no other manufacturer has that will be a guaranteed success.
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Posted: 2014-05-30 16:10:57
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Rockarel Posts: 38

I still don't understand the desire for >1080p screens in mobile. I can be reasonable and agree that it could be useful for larger phones and phablets to have it, but do you really want Sony to have a 5.5in device with Sony ergonomics? I don't. And addressing the "if you can do it, why wouldn't you do it?", maybe because it would make things worse while providing close to no gains, other than competing in the "dickswinging contest".

The qHD debate is like watching Samsung build a fast car and then replacing the round tires with square tires, and then Sony shouting "o yeah, well can do even worse!" - why not have a fast car and... Be able to utilize its increased speed?

sigh.
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Posted: 2014-05-30 16:19:36
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reeflotz Posts: > 500


On 2014-05-30 16:10:57, Tsepz_GP wrote:

I don't get why all the hostility with QHD displays in phones.



there is a limit to how much the human eye can see, and there's already minimal sharpness difference between a 5 inch 1080p screen and a 5 inch 720p screen, guess how much more "minimal" the difference will be between a 1080p and a QHD screen on 5 inch size? that is if you will be able to tell it without you knowing which is which.

So why are some members hostile about it or do not want it? Because it's no longer a huge or decent improvement, it's just nothing but a numbers game, where we are all fooling ourselves arguing we have something better when in fact we can't see it . That and currently it seems likely that it will be more of a negative thing affecting battery life and performance though I admit we still have yet to see.

I don't know about you, but I don't want a future where tech improvements are nothing but insignificant numbers that we can't use. Technology exists so we can benefit from it, it is not a tool for marketing or advertising.
[ This Message was edited by: reeflotz on 2014-05-30 16:18 ]

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Posted: 2014-05-30 17:07:45
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MartenR Posts: 313

@ramu something's telling me that you already know everything about Z3 but you are playing it safe to prevent last year's mess. Could you tell us everything you know?
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Posted: 2014-05-30 17:12:37
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Tsepz_GP Posts: > 500


On 2014-05-30 17:07:45, reeflotz wrote:

On 2014-05-30 16:10:57, Tsepz_GP wrote:

I don't get why all the hostility with QHD displays in phones.



there is a limit to how much the human eye can see, and there's already minimal sharpness difference between a 5 inch 1080p screen and a 5 inch 720p screen, guess how much more "minimal" the difference will be between a 1080p and a QHD screen on 5 inch size? that is if you will be able to tell it without you knowing which is which.

So why are some members hostile about it or do not want it? Because it's no longer a huge or decent improvement, it's just nothing but a numbers game, where we are all fooling ourselves arguing we have something better when in fact we can't see it . That and currently it seems likely that it will be more of a negative thing affecting battery life and performance though I admit we still have yet to see.

I don't know about you, but I don't want a future where tech improvements are nothing but insignificant numbers that we can't use. Technology exists so we can benefit from it, it is not a tool for marketing or advertising.
[ This Message was edited by: reeflotz on 2014-05-30 16:18 ]



We've seen HD720 and HD1080 come in and neither one had a bad effect on battery, what we've seen is panels get more refined and power efficient so what makes you think that will all suddenly change with QHD? There's far too much at stake for that to be allowed to happen.

These are the same old arguments that we saw when HD720P panels came in, and even when Apple launched the iPhone 4 with the 'Retina Screen' and all the negativity people expected was shot down as the panels were efficient.

If we want to talk about needs, and what is really necessary then an argument can be made for a lot of things in smartphones.
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Posted: 2014-05-30 17:36:10
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