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If it is efficient at QHD resolution, then it simply means it will be more efficient if it is 1080p only, which translates to better battery life, getting you more usage time on a single charge, and that is at the cost of what? pretty much almost none because I highly doubt you would still be able to pinpoint which screen is sharper like I said in my previous post.
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Posted: 2014-05-30 18:01:01
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I chalk the decline in sales as being caused by Sony f**cking the launch of the Z2 up completely. What with it being delayed for so long and all. If Sony don't f**k it up with the Z3 things should be OK again.
[ This Message was edited by: -XYZ on 2014-05-30 17:07 ]
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Posted: 2014-05-30 18:07:01
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The shipment figures are for January to March so no major impact of Z2 delay. Z2 delay impact would only be seen in Q2 numbers
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Posted: 2014-05-30 18:12:09
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Deja vu, isn't it? People arguing about how this higher res in the same screen size would have visually no difference and would be more power hungry than the lower, "acceptable" res. Then it comes out and people are amazed by how wrong they were.
We all think they are crazy for making and fitting these new yet "unreasonable, useless" tech in their new phones. If they had stayed on 720p, dual-core, 1 GB RAM, 2100 mAh phones until today and sold it at the same price as their flagships when a QHD, octa-core, 4 GB RAM, 3500 mAh phone would cost the same, now that would be really shitty. Now, if they sold it at a lower price as low as it should, MUCH MORE people would buy it and I don't think manufacturers can adapt to such demand. Plus they just left the higher price range blank. Oppo can do it because they need to gain popularity in the world market while gaining less, and because they are not as popular as the top brands, they won't need to worry about too much demand they can't handle. It's a slow, high risk process for small companies trying to grow to a bigger one. And when they get big and popular enough to battle with the top dogs, pretty sure their prices would be as high as these top companies now not just to compete fairly but balance supply and demand.
They are making these products with all these new techs because they have reason, not just marketing reasons. I'm pretty sure their engineers and R&D team know what they are doing and why.
[ This Message was edited by: itsjustJOH on 2014-05-30 17:17 ]
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Posted: 2014-05-30 18:15:59
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And that is the whole other point of the argument on why some members like me do not see the point in further increasing the screen resolution because it will introduce further costs on R&D. Money which in my opinion is better spent elsewhere rather than this decreasing benefit from increasing screen resolution.
I'm pretty sure their engineers and R&D team know what they are doing and why.
Depends, if your boss tells you to make something that will print the company money whether it is something truly beneficial or not, the engineers pretty much don't have a choice.
sad but it happens. This is why you see internal conflicts in a company, with people resigning etc. Anyway we are going too offtopic. Someone please post a rumor
[ This Message was edited by: reeflotz on 2014-05-30 17:47 ]
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Posted: 2014-05-30 18:46:32
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All I'm going to do is quote Henry Ford:
"If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said ‘faster horses.’"
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Posted: 2014-05-30 18:48:39
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On 2014-05-30 18:15:59, itsjustJOH wrote:
Deja vu, isn't it? People arguing about how this higher res in the same screen size would have visually no difference and would be more power hungry than the lower, "acceptable" res. Then it comes out and people are amazed by how wrong they were.
We all think they are crazy for making and fitting these new yet "unreasonable, useless" tech in their new phones. If they had stayed on 720p, dual-core, 1 GB RAM, 2100 mAh phones until today and sold it at the same price as their flagships when a QHD, octa-core, 4 GB RAM, 3500 mAh phone would cost the same, now that would be really shitty. Now, if they sold it at a lower price as low as it should, MUCH MORE people would buy it and I don't think manufacturers can adapt to such demand. Plus they just left the higher price range blank. Oppo can do it because they need to gain popularity in the world market while gaining less, and because they are not as popular as the top brands, they won't need to worry about too much demand they can't handle. It's a slow, high risk process for small companies trying to grow to a bigger one. And when they get big and popular enough to battle with the top dogs, pretty sure their prices would be as high as these top companies now not just to compete fairly but balance supply and demand.
They are making these products with all these new techs because they have reason, not just marketing reasons. I'm pretty sure their engineers and R&D team know what they are doing and why.
[ This Message was edited by: itsjustJOH on 2014-05-30 17:17 ]
What abt having a 5" screen with 4K resolution ?
Maybe even 8K resolution some yrs later!
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Posted: 2014-05-30 18:54:00
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On 2014-05-30 17:36:10, Tsepz_GP wrote:
On 2014-05-30 17:07:45, reeflotz wrote:
On 2014-05-30 16:10:57, Tsepz_GP wrote:
I don't get why all the hostility with QHD displays in phones.
there is a limit to how much the human eye can see, and there's already minimal sharpness difference between a 5 inch 1080p screen and a 5 inch 720p screen, guess how much more "minimal" the difference will be between a 1080p and a QHD screen on 5 inch size? that is if you will be able to tell it without you knowing which is which.
So why are some members hostile about it or do not want it? Because it's no longer a huge or decent improvement, it's just nothing but a numbers game, where we are all fooling ourselves arguing we have something better when in fact we can't see it
. That and currently it seems likely that it will be more of a negative thing affecting battery life and performance though I admit we still have yet to see.
I don't know about you, but I don't want a future where tech improvements are nothing but insignificant numbers that we can't use. Technology exists so we can benefit from it, it is not a tool for marketing or advertising.
[ This Message was edited by: reeflotz on 2014-05-30 16:18 ]
We've seen HD720 and HD1080 come in and neither one had a bad effect on battery, what we've seen is panels get more refined and power efficient so what makes you think that will all suddenly change with QHD? There's far too much at stake for that to be allowed to happen.
These are the same old arguments that we saw when HD720P panels came in, and even when Apple launched the iPhone 4 with the 'Retina Screen' and all the negativity people expected was shot down as the panels were efficient.
If we want to talk about needs, and what is really necessary then an argument can be made for a lot of things in smartphones.
Battery size too increased very much with every new bump in resolution.
The very 1st lot of HD and Full HD smartphones had average battery life. It took almost 2 flagship cycles by manufacturers to make these flagship phones more efficient!
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Posted: 2014-05-30 18:59:46
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@reeflotz I don't know but I think this is just the front page. I mean their R&D, most likely, are working on something bigger but because they need funding they have the lower divisions of the R&D and the engineering team improve the current products, unreasonable or unnecessary just so they can sell them to create money for the bigger researches. But of course money for the whole company, primarily for the big bosses.
On 2014-05-30 18:48:39, MNX1024 wrote:
All I'm going to do is quote Henry Ford:
"If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said ‘faster horses.’"
Quite sums it all up.
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Posted: 2014-05-30 19:11:27
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Strange why we have so many posts on this issue. You all do realize sony is using a QHD panel for its 2015 flagship ? So where does that leave all these arguments against QHD displays. Point is a company in a position like Sony needs to stay on par with competition or a step ahead and not go back to the old sony Ericsson era.
And from what info i have, QHD display won't be the only thing that would be behind the competition on the Z3. It's really sad and intriguing at the same time.
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Posted: 2014-05-30 19:17:51
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