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thats like saying new phones need cap screens cuz resistive is old tech. if its the uninformed pushing for marketing points then doesnt that invalidate its necessity? i mean cmon the phone doesnt have mt, but it should so that it can sell? it may get it later but doesnt have it now. its not like the phone is lacking much in the way of anything. this seems so trivial, and everyone yellin for it, just makes them look hypocritical for berating seal all this time. anyway i just think its minutia, apple driven minutia for something thats nothing more than a fad right now. there are plenty of other useful mechanisms in the UI to negate the advantages of mt. and if a person wont buy a phone cuz it doesnt have it, they are missing out on a superior device. if 320x480 w/ mt is better than 480x854 w/o mt; they deserve all that comes with that horrendous pixel density, and lack of features.
also an application store is not a phone feature.
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Posted: 2010-03-29 19:07:39
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I must say,i nearly had a heart attack when i saw how much this is going to be. 3-4years ago $800 for a smartphone would have been understandable,but for 2010 its just ridiculous IMO.
Do SE understand what they are dealing with? The place where Android is making a killing is the USA. Americans will not spend such a ridiculous amount of money on a product that has so many other alternatives: HTC Desire, HTC HD2, Google NexusOne, Motorola Droid/Milestone, iPhone3GS, what ever SAMSUNG Android, Nokia N900, BlackBerry Storm2 etc. . .the 4inch display and 8mp camera arent enough to be charging $800.
As for multitouch, its not a dealbreaker no doubt BUT it does make using the phone a lot better e.g. Gaming where it can be used heavily especialy on the types of games that are meant to take full advantage of that Snapdragon CPU. I can also imagine multitouch making it easier to manage files in the file manager or media in gallery etc... Either way the X10 will get it at some point so those who dont see it mattering now will see in the near by future im sure.
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Posted: 2010-03-29 19:14:14
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multi touch does get a little more important in gaming i think....when playing some of the 3d shooter type games on the phone...it gets quite annoying when u cant look around and shoot at the same time
pinch and zoom while it is nice to have...is not really that much of a deal breaker...while it does make zooming pictures a little easier its more of a show off feature which has become quite common anyways!
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Posted: 2010-03-29 19:25:02
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On 2010-03-29 19:25:02, kewsvnet wrote:
multi touch does get a little more important in gaming i think....when playing some of the 3d shooter type games on the phone...it gets quite annoying when u cant look around and shoot at the same time
pinch and zoom while it is nice to have...is not really that much of a deal breaker...while it does make zooming pictures a little easier its more of a show off feature which has become quite common anyways!
Ya, this is it really. Pinch-zoom doesn't really matter. I've played with good zoom option in Opera Mobile on my iPAQ, and the touch-hold-to-zoom feature I saw Sony preview in a video for the X10 looked like a good alternative.
But gaming will hurt by not having dual-touch, especially if all the other handsets in this class have it. Games will be created to run on hardware like this but include multi-touch controls because that's what most of the available hardware uses. X10 owners would be left out in such a case if it does indeed lack dual-/multi-touch support.
Time will tell, as SE has to make a firm statement eventually.
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Posted: 2010-03-29 20:02:56
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theres a reason the psp and the ds have buttons ... its cuz you cant play real game with a TS ... it doesnt work theres no feedback when youve missed a "button" its hard enough with a controller. ppl playing games on these devices are missing the point already. go get a decent game system or play bejeweled, at the very least you need a keyboard ie droid/n900 to be playing "3D" games.
[ This Message was edited by: my ninja on 2010-03-29 19:16 ]
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Posted: 2010-03-29 20:15:15
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Lots of use of BUZZ WORDS here "Dual Touch" "Multi Touch" Given very few people have actually had their hands on the X10 so far I suggest this all just to much huff and puff!
May I suggest you stop speculating about Multi / Dual touch do what I did regarding the much hyped Capacitive screens used on Android devices, use three or four devices and then make an informed judgment!
However even that seems to confuse those who like to set themselves up as Tech Gurus!!
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Posted: 2010-03-29 20:31:07
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Gummobile.com are showing as having stock. They also have some listed on ebay for £489.99 with free delivery.
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Posted: 2010-03-29 20:37:42
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On 2010-03-29 20:31:07, Nitro Fan wrote:
Lots of use of BUZZ WORDS here "Dual Touch" "Multi Touch" Given very few people have actually had their hands on the X10 so far I suggest this all just to much huff and puff!
May I suggest you stop speculating about Multi / Dual touch do what I did regarding the much hyped Capacitive screens used on Android devices, use three or four devices and then make an informed judgment!
However even that seems to confuse those who like to set themselves up as Tech Gurus!!
Getting our hands on an X10 won't help. Since it's running Android 1.6, there's really no way to tell if the hardware supports any form of multi-touch. Unless Sony makes an official statement, or someone decides to either open their X10 and look for some marking to show which Clearpad hardware it uses, or a ROM is released that has Android 2.1, we simply won't know.
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Posted: 2010-03-29 20:41:53
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Summit has just confirmed on the official blog that.... cut and paste.... Back in November, I posted that X10 will not support multi touch functionality at launch, but will be considered for the future. I can appreciate that even though there wasn“t a commitment, such wording both creates expectations (small or big) on future support and implies restrictions on software side.
That is the information I had in hand at that point of time. I am well aware that you rate multi touch functionality very high and therefore I regret to inform you that X10 screen hardware does not register simultaneous entries. Meaning even though we will upgrade the underlying operating system in relation to upgrading our user experience layer, X10 will not support multi touch functionality
Not looking good although some are already saying they have not denied "dual touch".
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Posted: 2010-03-29 23:54:20
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Good that it's made clear before wider release because quite a few here were ready to buy this based on false assumptions. For those that still have hopes, the man was clear enough: no multi-touch, no dual-touch, only single touch, now and forever, regardless of update to Android 2.1 that may come late this year.
So if you buy it, buy it because you like what it can do today. Do not buy it assuming it will get more features later because most likely it won't.
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Posted: 2010-03-30 00:29:05
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