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JD4341 Posts: 62


On 2008-09-09 17:17:27, JD4341 wrote:

On 2008-09-09 16:37:34, cremz wrote:

On 2008-09-09 15:14:31, londonlad123 wrote:
Not sure if this has been posted. Introducing the xperia panels...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFCfcsu4Czc

Xperia is starting to attract my interest slowly. Mainly the fact its not far from release now.


Nope. They changed it to December now. Even if its next month, its still ten months from the date it was announced.


Spoke to Vodafone retentions today...they still have a release date of 9th Oct. They are sending me an OMNIA today, got sick of waiting.....especialy as today's announcment did not include any P x or X1 without keyboard

JD

Seems there are big problems with the VODAFONE firmware on the OMNIA with lots of people sending them back. Also stock problems....probably to do with all the returns they are having.....my delivery has now been put back until tomorrow. Maybe I should just cancel and wait until the end of the month for the X1. My only concern is that VODAFONE will screw up the X1 firmware too
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Posted: 2008-09-11 10:27:15
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jmcomms Posts: > 500

Going by what people have said on our forum, they're going back because the people HATE the Omnia.

I got mine yesterday and it's so slow! It's also pretty much all WM, with a front-end screen that's nowhere near as clever as Touch FLO or SE's panels.

My problem is this; why do we need so much work done to cover up the operating system? Is it like buying a cheap old wreck of a car, then putting a nice shiny new body kit and exhaust on it in the hope you won't notice you're still driving a cheap old wreck of a car?

Just imagine if the new HTC Touch HD was running S60 Touch.. Even UIQ would probably be better on the X1, but when Symbian/Nokia merges S60 and UIQ - THEN we'll have a combined OS and user interface that will make all these 'bodges' truly appealing. And maybe then, and only then, will anything be as slick as the Apple iPhone UI (but hopefully with many more features to keep us happy).

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Posted: 2008-09-11 10:39:52
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Dups! Posts: > 500

@jmcomms

I couldn't agree with you more!

Initially, this handset was quite appealing, in fact, I even overlooked the fact that it was running on WM. The waiting and the darn OS eventually took its toll on me and right now it is just another WM device.

One thing going for it though is its sleek design. SE knows how to design them.
I'm going to wait for the Symbian Foundation and take it from there.
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Posted: 2008-09-11 11:31:16
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aksd Posts: > 500

@jmcomms

I beg to differ. I own the HTC TyTn II and the E71 at the moment and S60 just does'nt cut it for me. I still prefer WM, although the UI may not be as user friendly the OS offers a lot more options regarding software and moddability. Going from WM to S60 feels like going from a smart phone to a dumb phone. But thats just me.

Making the UI slick is more of a differentiating factor among various WM phone manufacturers, adding their little touch to the OS giving the phone its very own identity, as well as make everyday usage a bit easier. Like I said after using S60 and WM I dont see how S60 is in anyway superior to WM except for Nokias add ons such as Ovi etc. I would rather own a slihgtly slower WM phone with its wide range of s/w available rather than a slightly quicker S60 phone which has very limited s/w when comapred to the WM one, but like I said thats just me. Although S60 does have its advantages, it does what its supposed to out of the box.
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Posted: 2008-09-11 11:33:28
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max_wedge Posts: > 500


On 2008-09-11 10:39:52, jmcomms wrote:
My problem is this; why do we need so much work done to cover up the operating system? Is it like buying a cheap old wreck of a car, then putting a nice shiny new body kit and exhaust on it in the hope you won't notice you're still driving a cheap old wreck of a car?


Well the UI is plain, but that's not my complaint. What I'm looking for from WM now is a fingertouch interface. Whether it's something that Microsoft eventually build in as a native feature, or whether it's added by third party doesn't matter to me, as long as the majority of task I perform can be done by finger touch.

Even the standard s60 is no better in style than WM and doesn't have any kind of touch at all let alone finger. So imho WM is the next best thing to iphone when it comes to touch interface. Some of the finger touch shell enhancements have potential to bring it even closer to iphone. This is good for those of us who want iphone like ease of use with WM versatility and feature bloat (for all us dead zoners).

Old Bill Gates will embrace "finger" touch as well, but probably not before Nokia Touch hits the market.

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Posted: 2008-09-11 12:45:54
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anonymuser Posts: > 500

WM is a good OS underneath, with good support for just about every mobile feature you can think of, and a lot of dedication and respect from the enterprise/business world. It needs a lick of paint, which is what the likes of HTC and now SE have been trying to do for a year or two, but it needs Microsoft to do it properly, and I think that's what we'll see in WM7 - all the functionality they've been building up for years, coupled with a UI to rival the Iphone.

I doubt we'll see WM7 on the X1 - that's just not SE's style - but it should make the next round of WM phones something to really lust after.
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Posted: 2008-09-11 16:16:43
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germaneww Posts: 8

HTC HD has 4" of screen at wvga resolution ....wow!!!

http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_t[....]mp_camera_and_all-news-588.php

[ This Message was edited by: germaneww on 2008-09-11 15:39 ]
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Posted: 2008-09-11 16:33:40
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Jabe Posts: > 500


On 2008-09-10 10:27:56, Jabe wrote:

On 2008-09-07 12:13:57, germaneww wrote:
3d HW acceleration



Pardon my ignorance, but why is it so important? Specifically on the phone.


Anybody?
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Posted: 2008-09-11 17:59:35
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Osmano Posts: 252

Good question. Iwould say it's NOT important. More like a "showoff" for us gadgetfreaks.....
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Posted: 2008-09-11 18:08:22
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Jabe Posts: > 500

What is it and what is it for? I am afraid I lack the basic knowledge about these things
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Posted: 2008-09-11 18:23:03
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