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Screen issues are from serial numbers before (630) a support agent at HTC confirmed this when I spoke to them a few weeks back but they did say that a lot of new serial numbers 628 upwards have been sent back for keyboard issues. I couldn't get any more info other than that from the agent.
Not all previous serial numbers had screen issues I can confirm from my experience. I had an excellent 626 unit which only had a loose stylus fault it kept falling out but was sent back. I could kick myslef now!
I am going to hold of a few more days as my P990 is now ready in the box awaiting the RMA from expansys. Then I will be ordering another TyTN maybe I will have better luck this time. I may have a look around in London for one which I can test then and there in the shop for issues. Expansys RMA request is a joke it takes so long.
[ This Message was edited by: xxrawdogxx on 2006-08-22 22:39 ]
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Posted: 2006-08-22 23:35:39
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My Orange SPV M3100 SN# starts with HT631 and has no screen alignment or other build issues as far as I can tell.
As for viruses on the TyTn - well, being the cheapskate I am I decided to how shall we say erm... tried to prolong the trial period of a particular piece of software by installing a 'fixed'.exe file to the phone.
It seemed to do the trick, but immediately afterwards, the phone would open a GPRS/WAP connection on its own whenever it was powered up and keep repeating to open the connection every few minutes or so. Where it was trying to connect to I don't know but I never let it stay on-line long enough to eat into my monthly data allowance. I only managed to get rid of the problem by resetting the phone to factory defaults and reinstalling everything (without the fixed .exe this time).
Strangely enough, I was evaluating a number of PDA Antivirus / Malware detection programs at the time and non of these picked it up or even flagged there being a potential problem. I think as phones get 'smarter' and 'smart' tech gets more mainstream we're going to see a lot more of this kind of thing regardless of which platform it's on.
Bit worrying when you think about it isn't it...
Xerxes
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Posted: 2006-08-23 02:26:09
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Strangely enough, I was evaluating a number of PDA Antivirus / Malware detection programs at the time and non of these picked it up or even flagged there being a potential problem. I think as phones get 'smarter' and 'smart' tech gets more mainstream we're going to see a lot more of this kind of thing regardless of which platform it's on.
Bit worrying when you think about it isn't it...
Xerxes
As long as their access into the phone islimited to "fixed".exe files we should be OK, but I am sure that the developers of these virusses will not be content with that. Where's the challenge??
that said, even with all the antivirus, as you said, these things still get through. They are almost as useful as car insurance! (when you need it, they don't cover you
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Posted: 2006-08-23 14:09:04
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just phoned up orange for my spv m3100 and they are still outta stock arrrh !!!!
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Posted: 2006-08-23 15:14:03
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hey people (posting from my TyTN hehe) have been on holiday since when I got the handset and mines a serial 628 I aint seen the problems (screen and keyboard) that have been mentioned ?! what's the deal am I lucky or will it eventually go wrong?!
[ This Message was edited by: mrvanx on 2006-08-23 15:34 ]
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Posted: 2006-08-23 16:33:00
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Long story but hopefully not too tedious.
I bought a P910a withion a week of its availability in the fall of '04 and greatly enjoyed using it until the keypad stopped working this winter. At which time I bought a Qtek 8100. I delayed this purchase for several months, using the P910a with the keypad removed, as I had hoped the P990 would be released in Q1 or Q2 as was originally announced. I have been using the 8100 for several months now, it is more powerful and faster, I really like it but it is not as easy to use as the P910a.
I was very excited when the P990i was announced and thought that, like the P910, a P990a version would be announced shortly thereafter. I even held out some hope that SE would change the specs to make this phone quadband. Needless to say I am disappointed. Life will go on, but nonetheless I would have enjoyed using such a phone. I will now wait a month or so and purchase an HTC TyTN. We have HSDPA here in Boston now, so my next phone will have to be able to take advantage of that.
Here comes the rant, so anyone who doesn't care can stop reading now. I also posted this on another thread but this one is much longer and seemingly more popular and relevant.
I don't understand why HTC and Nokia can make a quadband GSM/triband UMTS/HSDPA device and SE can't. SE does make quadband phones, so obviously they have the tech and chose not to implement it here.
Furthermore, I don't buy the whole spiel about the US market for smart phones and the lack of consumer sophistication argument. All the major US carriers carry the Wizard/Apache phones which are more complicated to use than the P series. Apparently, Cingular is going to pick up the TyTN in the near future as well. Also, I don't think this is a matter of money. The quadband GSM/EDGE chips are commonplace now. Also, the Triband UMTS/HSDPA chips are out there, and while they may be more expensive, this is a premium phone and $50 more will not deter most people.
Personally, and with no evidence to back this up, my opinion is that SE marketing is just lazy and not doing a good job marketing to US carriers. Any serious marketing effort to sell a phone that is as powerful as the HTC PPCs but easier to use should be successful. I think that SE is just used to dealing with European carriers that they already know and have established relationships with. I'm sure that the P series phones practically sell themselves to the European carriers, whereas it would take much more legwork to make US carriers familiar with these phones.
On the more optimistic side, perhaps there is another SE phone on the horizon that will incorporate all these features and will be announced in the very near future.
If there are any SE marketing people, or those with more "inside" information than me out there please tell me whether I am right or not, on any of the above.
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Posted: 2006-08-23 19:57:50
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@dr.W
SE were not able to source the chips for quad band, edge & UMTS. Remember SE only has 6% of the global market and Nokia has 33%
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Posted: 2006-08-23 21:06:37
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That is disappointing to hear. I guess that means that those of us on the wrong side of the pond will never get the same quality of smartphone from SE that the rest of the world will. It seems as though SE does not believe in the adage of having to spend money to make money. Every non-US (smart)phone that they produce will make it harder for them to break into this market as people will become more familiar with other brands. Thus it will become a self-fulfilling prophecy that the US is just not a good market for SE.
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Posted: 2006-08-23 22:08:42
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@ Masseur et al, Is there a good forum like this dedicated to the tytn?
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Posted: 2006-08-23 23:19:39
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You could post things about tytn in the other manufacturers section here on esato, however, it is not as popular than the symbian phones section.
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Posted: 2006-08-23 23:38:17
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