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Got my update today!
It feels alot faster and the camera is now superfast!
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Posted: 2013-10-19 14:01:48
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I just received my "Ebay dock" for my Z1.
http://www.ebay.com.hk/itm/ws[....]dll?ViewItem&item=271284868493
It is exactly as the picture
The cable is ultra short. The dock itself feels like the price i paid for it... cheap BUT does the trick. With the phone in the dock, it does not move easily due to the rubber feet under the dock. Going to see how fast it will charge the phone.
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Posted: 2013-10-19 14:33:27
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Hi all and Sponse,
So i am back from Akihabara where I could play with several SO-01F (Docomo Xperia Z1) and F-01F (the latest Arrows NX from Fujitsu), at two different shops.
First, all the Z1 have the issue reprted by sponse, so man, i hope you can relax and enjoy your phone! Furthermore, the Arrows NX all had the same issue, even though the thickness of the bright line seemed thinner. And finally, i had a look at my iphone, and guess what, same thing! It appears at extreme angles I am never looking at my phone, so it is the first time I notice this in 4 years!
(my humble) Conclusion: your phone seems completely normal to me, and you did a good thing by exchanging the one with the dust in the lens.
I am trying to decide between the Z1 and Arrows NX. Below is my comparison for the few others in Japan, but everybody is welcome to give me your advice.
Screen:
Fujitsu > Sony. The Whitemagic screen is gorgeous, better brightness, better viewing angles.
Browsing:
Sony > Fujitsu. My test is to browse PC sites in LTE with Firefox. And Z1 is perfectly smooth, Arrows is very good but just a little bit less smooth, enough to be noticed. Not sure why as both have the same s800 and 2gb ram.
Camera:
How stupid as it sounds, just trying good light shots, but Fujitsu > Sony. This is crazy because Fujitsu uses a Sony sensor, but the colors are more realistic, on Sony it is more saturated.
Built Quality & design:
Sony > Fujitsu. Easy, Fujitsu used cheap looking plastic on this one. Z1 is better but not perfect as fingerprints are too visible.
Handling in one hand:
Fujitsu > Sony. The phone is a bit smaller and the back is curved. Also there is a software button in standard to bring the top of the screen close to your thumb.
UI:
Sony > Fujitsu. You can see Sony UI is built for global markets. Fujitsu is less intuitive. There should also be more custom roms for Sony.
Battery life:
Fujitsu > Sony. Not really a test, but with whitemagic and 3200mah, they boast 3 days of use with one charge.
Sound quality:
Sony > Fujitsu. This is also counterintuitive as Fujitsu has stereo dolby speakers. However, the sound was clearer and louder wih the Sony.
Water and dust proof:
Sony > Fujitsu. Both have the same resistance to water, but Sony has dust proof that Fujitsu dropped from the new model.
Fingerprint sensor:
Fujitsu > Sony. That is really a good feature Fujitsu has had for years. It avoids you pushing a button and then sliding the screen, and also can replace a passcode if you want some security. I like it, it is on the back and all can be done with one hand.
Other:
Not sure what to add. The rest is really the same I think, in particular the memory in 32gb.
For your curiosity, a hands on video of each phone, I know some of you will appreciate!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGIGAO2l0uA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrXykEHLnfw
Edit: Of course the video is not from me, no PM please, LOL!
[ This Message was edited by: Shotokan81 on 2013-10-19 13:47 ]
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Posted: 2013-10-19 14:42:05
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Hmm no. Settings in the camera are TO USE THEM.
Using some predefined settings is not overcomplicated.
Tests are to test quality, not for beeing idiot proof.
So if the website uses one standard setting for all
it doesn't give any idea what the real camera performance is.
And more, if it would be just an idiot users test why the f.... do you need those comparative charts??
You contradict yourself.
[ This Message was edited by: doministry on 2013-10-19 12:49 ]
O really?
The point of good camera in a phone is that it makes good point and shoot photos. You can't really set up much without shutter speed control now can You? It's still auto even if You go manual, because it automatically adjusts shutter speed, the thing that has major influence on how the photo will turn out. You have a slight control with ISO, but it's still lottery how long will the exposure time last.
What's more, Sony has SuperiorAuto that should be awesome as hell... Besides, it's much easier for reviewers to do such comparisons. All phones have auto which makes a fair test. Imagine You have Lumia 1020, iPhone 5s and Xperia Z1. With Nokia You can even adjust shutter speed, on iPhone there's no manual mode (lol), and Xperia Z1 gives you only slight control of the camera. Now tell me how would You compare image quality of these phones using manual settings? I'm listening.
Comparative charts are to compare image quality of each phone, it's pretty obvious nope? Even idiot can tell the difference between crap and good pic quality.
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Posted: 2013-10-19 15:41:02
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@ admad
first of all, I'm not drunk, you better chill out dude, It's not the final verdict or ranking I'm looking at, it's the way the phones was criticized on why they were ranked as such. Because, I didn't just read the verdict, I also read the main reasons why they gave that verdict. I'm confused as to why they need to do another review of only the three phones (N3,G2,Z1), when they already did a review of those three including three more phones previously. If they are comparing them as overall devices, then in my opinion the N3 shouldn't be there as it's a phablet, slightly aimed for a different purpose.
Second, I was referring to the night mode, they could've used night mode too on all three, apart from using only auto, it would've gave more accuracy whether the camera is good or not. Besides I was hoping something more in depth since they separated only those three but what they did was just exactly the same, it's like reposting an old review with some edits here and there. While I agree that it's still a fair test since all are on auto, I also argue then what's the point of having dedicated scene modes if you're not going you use them? Manufacturers put those so that you can get the best out of your camera, get it?
[ This Message was edited by: reeflotz on 2013-10-19 15:44 ]
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Posted: 2013-10-19 16:16:28
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On 2013-10-19 15:41:02, admad wrote:
The point of good camera in a phone is that it makes good point and shoot photos. You can't really set up much without shutter speed control now can You? It's still auto even if You go manual, because it automatically adjusts shutter speed, the thing that has major influence on how the photo will turn out. You have a slight control with ISO, but it's still lottery how long will the exposure time last.
Well you probably don't shoot much. I do and even if Scenes or modes are half automatic, there's a HUGE difference between results. So maybe open your eyes before you write such things.
On 2013-10-19 15:41:02, admad wrote:
What's more, Sony has SuperiorAuto that should be awesome as hell... Besides, it's much easier for reviewers to do such comparisons. All phones have auto which makes a fair test. Imagine You have Lumia 1020, iPhone 5s and Xperia Z1. With Nokia You can even adjust shutter speed, on iPhone there's no manual mode (lol), and Xperia Z1 gives you only slight control of the camera. Now tell me how would You compare image quality of these phones using manual settings? I'm listening.
Its's easy (maybe not for you). You shoot using different settings and compare best results.
On 2013-10-19 15:41:02, admad wrote:
Comparative charts are to compare image quality of each phone, it's pretty obvious nope? Even idiot can tell the difference between crap and good pic quality.
Bull...t. You can easily tell the diff between Sony Aspen and Z1, but on highend you need some knowledge,
observation skills etc. to really find out. And you have to PLAY around with the whole chart to see different parts zoomed.
99% will never do it.
What you write is silly.
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Posted: 2013-10-19 16:44:12
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On 2013-10-19 14:42:05, Shotokan81 wrote:
Hi all and Sponse,
you'r the best man!
i guess the other handset has the same "problem" but i minor mode, as i haven't notice it even when i tried, but then again i have check another 3 xperia z1 and they all was the same as mine now.. so my device is "perfectly good".
it can be seen under direct source and a bit of an angle... so i'm cool with it.
yeah i guess that the dust was major problem, i could have lived with it, but then it has started moving toward the lens!!
and it was about 1.5 cm long!! so hell, yeah I have made the right decision...
other than that, the z1 is a beast... just wow
the thing that bugs me, that mine seems to have head on... i don't even have to look at it at an angle to see that white reflection lines..
[ This Message was edited by: sponse on 2013-10-19 19:45 ]
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Posted: 2013-10-19 16:59:20
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After a week of heavy usage I can also only say that this device is awesome and the love for it is growing every day!
Im not the foto expert but for me it makes by far the best photos I´ve seen on a mobile. Compared it today to the IPhone 5 (yes,a little outdated) and it was far superior. Sound quality is great, gaming, browsing.
Very happy so far. If they only calibrate the display brightness a little better in the next update, it comes close to being the perfect smartphone!
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Posted: 2013-10-19 18:00:04
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Guys on the serious note,
should I leave with that defective screen as the merchant is saying there is no issue and the quality check is done from there side Sony support is not responsive at all.what should i do its been 2 weeks
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Posted: 2013-10-19 18:15:45
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On 2013-10-18 22:39:24, Miki69 wrote:
@cu015170, I agree with you mate, had same expectations myself. However, if you check results:
Good light: Z1, N3, G2
Low light (flash off): G2, Z1, N3
Low light (flash on):N3, Z1, G2
This is not what I expect from "camera-centric" device. And Z1 has better imaging attributes (sensor size, G lens, Bionz) than both competitors, at least on paper. So it should really
wipe the floor with them. That's why I think there is still hope for further improvements via fw.
Cameras Compared: Lumia 1020 vs Xperia Z1 vs Note 3 Photo Test Part 1
http://www.soyacincau.com/201[....]1-vs-note-3-photo-test-part-1/
Cheers,
Miki
[ This Message was edited by: Miki69 on 2013-10-18 21:53 ]
Unfortunately what you have on paper doesn't quite translate directly into practice, but yes... further software tweaks might be able squeeze more out of the sensor.
I don't think Sony are maximizing the available imaging hardware on the Z1. Same goes for the 1020..
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Posted: 2013-10-19 21:25:01
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