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Hello Guys!

I was a long time SE Fan and after a great experience with a K800, I decided to move a step further and get me one of the new (at that time) 5 Mpixel cameraphones.

I started with the N95. A overall good phone, but his photos would always get oversaturated colors and its LED flash was a clear let down for someone departing from a Xenon Flash cameraphone. If the object was not well lit before the shot that small LED was simply useless!! It wouldn't even manage to get it focused! It's a disaster! Other problems are: it's a little bit lazy and that slider form doesn't attract me that much. That slider top gets loose with time. On the other hand, it has a great recording capability, managing to record videos up to VGA at 30fps. But that LED made me move to another one,

The LG Viewty. I was absolutely cacth by that phone. Before I get it. Because after that... All the specs were about great features, but it turned out to be a complete, or almost, crap.
First of all: its camera night performance is simply the worst you can get: terribly noisy shots, a totally rubbish and useless Xenon Flash (even worse than the N95 LED) and a doubtful feature: Manual Focus. I finally figured out why they put it there: It's a question of reliability. The Automatic Focus is totally unreliable, leading you to more than often blurred images. Great part of its commands are hard to execute, due to a poor touchscreen interface, including the Manual Focus and the only good thing there is video recording, were it outperforms even the Nokia. Its simply superb, with seemless 30 fps (sometimes the Nokia seems to get a little bit stuck between some frames). But its an Oasis in there! It also lacks Wi-fi, to which I got used during the N95 experience, and also the GPS. So, a pretty, but average phone.

Then I got this one: the N82. And what can I say? It's not the best looking phone, I have to agree. Its keypad is rubbish, sometimes it's almost impossible to press the left button without doing the same for the middle one. It has got not the brightest screen on earth. But its camera is fantastic. You may get sometimes poor levels of detail at 100% crop pictures, but that occurs just sometimes, and you clearly see that it is a software problem, not a hardware one. Its Xenon Flash outperforms the one found on the K800 by leaps and bounds, and all the pictures I take during parties and other poorly lit enviroments come out amazingly sharp and vivid! The Focus Assistant LED is as effective as one found on a regular Digital Still Camera by Sony, for instance. And it seems that Nokia have corrected the color saturation issue present on the N95. And you simply don't get that AWFUL WASHED EFFECT ON DAYLIGHT PICTURES THAT YOU GET FROM THE K800 OR THE K850. And, besides that, you got: a solid candybar form, a practical and effective camera cover, Wi-fi, A-GPS, plus a great offer of apps, much wider than you get for non Symbian phones. You can even use it without a SIM Card at all!

Then I heard about this new C905... That made me think and suddenly I looked to my N82 with different eyes. Somehow it didn't look that good anymore. Wi-fi with DNLA support, A-GPS, 8 Mpixels camera and... QVGA recording. QVGA RECORDING?!?! WHAT THE HELL!! Man, if it can't cope with the current generation cameraphones, the next generation (from which this new C905 belongs) will simply smash it up!!

C'mon SE!! In the meantime, I tested the I-mobile 902 and, as far as I know, its SE that makes its CCD camera sensor. CCD!!!! I bet that 5 Mpixel CCD would be much greater than this new 8 Mpixel rubbish CMOS sensor. These pictures people posted here are nothing but regular ones.

But I guess '8 Mpixels' sounds more 'powerful' at the shelves of a store, didn't it?

Samsung and Nokia will simply smash this new C905. Samsung already has Optical Zoom. I bet they will improve the sensor quality for their next generation cameraphones, as well as their video recording capabilities, and so will Nokia!

This one born dead.
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Posted: 2008-06-18 08:52:58
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I think it makes very good ( quality ) photos.
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Posted: 2008-06-18 08:55:44
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I am nt an expert in this stuff, but the numbers on the back, around the photo lense, shows similar numbers as to Nokia N95? Which would mean it has almost same size lense and cmos as N95?
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Posted: 2008-06-18 08:59:37
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I think the pictures posted on the chinise website are edited.
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Posted: 2008-06-18 09:29:16
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nooooooooooooooo , shiho won't support vga video recording


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Posted: 2008-06-18 09:31:55
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thanks SaLih

i happy with image quality


http://www.esato.com/phonephotos/viewphotos.php?pid=12449 great image quality ))

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[ This Message was edited by: Vipera ammodytes on 2008-06-18 08:58 ]
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Posted: 2008-06-18 09:50:03
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Didn't JMCOMMS say this phone had a CCD sensor?
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Posted: 2008-06-18 09:58:58
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While people are complaining about the thickness of the phone, they're still asking for optical zoom. so, you want it thicker then? But i thought you said its too thick already?

and assuming it DOES utilise a CCD sensor like jmcomms says, then the thickness is fine by me. if it was CMOS, id be a little disappointed by its size.

VGA video. personal preference i can live with out. i dont use video recording. though i can see why other people are upset. still hope for it perhaps? the x1 got 256mb ram added later on, maybe, just MAYBE, they will do the same here and add vga in a later whitepaper. time will tell.

3.5mm jack..... again, personal preference. i dont require one.

though, there is never a perfect device....


im quite impressed with the picture quality im seeing so far, especially since they are protos.

will definately check this out when its released.


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[ This Message was edited by: >500 on 2008-06-18 09:08 ]
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Posted: 2008-06-18 10:05:47
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Lol, i know what you mean, it really does. But only better
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Posted: 2008-06-18 10:15:07
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Optimistic about the phone. Optical zoom isn't used so often, and messes with the quality of the pictures regardless. Look at the samsung g800/g810. X1's white paper changed, hoping this white paper does as well.
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Posted: 2008-06-18 10:17:07
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