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On 2017-12-04 22:13:56, ADIDA wrote:
Snapdragon 845=Best 2018 Chipset
A11, A12, Kirin 970 and Exynos blablabla=only paper perfomance
and Full Screen Mid-Range Sony's device very coming soon
If by A11 and A12 you're referring to Apples SoCs, then I would wager you're straight up wrong. Apple with their mountains of cash have poached so many quality chip designers, and are light years ahead of Qualcomm. At the very least on the CPU side. GPU wise they're competitive, but the Cyclone cores designed by Apple offer straight up better performance.
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Posted: 2017-12-05 00:15:45
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The 7nm next year will be great.
But if more power saving cpu, the OEMs will take advantage to use smaller batteries.
Hope Sony stops doing it.
3200 to 2700 mAh for the 5.2" flagship.
XZ1 is bigger than Z3, same 7.3mm....
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Posted: 2017-12-05 00:18:09
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I have TWO sony's dual camera phone design and And they are really different.
I have a rear panel design yet
Which I will soon do
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Posted: 2017-12-05 09:22:43
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On 2017-12-05 00:15:45, -XYZ wrote:
If by A11 and A12 you're referring to Apples SoCs, then I would wager you're straight up wrong. Apple with their mountains of cash have poached so many quality chip designers, and are light years ahead of Qualcomm. At the very least on the CPU side. GPU wise they're competitive, but the Cyclone cores designed by Apple offer straight up better performance.
They're not ahead of Qualcomm, they're just making bigger chips. And even with properly optimized iOS, iPhones fail to beat the best Android flagships in the actual speed tests. It is paper performance.
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Posted: 2017-12-05 10:36:48
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Apple is focusing more on per core performance rather than going for multi core route the Android side is taking..
Both have their reasons..
Single core is brilliant, it's easy to implement in software, but the more performance you have the harder it is to get more performance from the core without sacrificing power efficiency. one of the challenges is when you reach a specific threshold then the design becomes inefficient duo to wasted resources ( mis prediction for example ) that's why it is wise sometime to implement SMT in order to make use of that wasted resources in other threads. but it still remains harder.
Multi Cores is easier from engineering POV, it takes a hell much less engineering to put 2-4 or even 8 cores to work than to make a single core that can match those multi-cores designs, but optimising the software to take advantage of those cores is also hard, and also it depends on the workload, some workloads are highly parallel which can make an efficient use of multi-core designs, and some are not because they're too serial, and some workloads are a mix of both in a way they can make use of only few threads, but also benefit more from single core performance like games.
So, Apple depended more on single core performance which has multiple advantage in the mobile world specially that their iOS took long path toward multi tasking compared to Android, the later in another hand make use of multiple cores very well duo to the nature of the OS and it's multitasking friendly usage.
The problem is Android SoC makers moved quickly toward multicore because it's easier and quicker, but Software side lacked the benefit from all those cores, so except when multiple apps is being used we don't actually making use of that power, only few applications really make use of all the resources the SoC can bring. and the worst is most multitasking scenarios doesn't work the way we think it will work, it's a mobile OS after all.
I really hope SoC makers doesn't move toward too many cores, the big.LITTLE concept is very nice to help bring the performance when needed while maintaining low power when not needed. but now with 4-8 cores with processing clusters are more than enough with the kind of multitasking and usage scenario Android is bringing/offering. I hope for more single core performance but still with the current design of two processing clusters.
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Posted: 2017-12-05 13:28:15
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Iphone X scores way ahead of Androids in browsing benchmarks because most of them are meant to work that way. Iphone X VS XZP clearly showed that Sony is far ahead in browsing speed.
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Posted: 2017-12-05 16:05:17
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We have now 9 separate modelsat uaprof awaiting for announcement: 3 high-end and 6 low/mid-end.
This year models were presented usually 2-4 months after appearing at uaprof.
Will we see tchem all before or at MWC or is it possible to delay tchem till IFA? How it was in past?
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Posted: 2017-12-05 16:42:24
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On 2017-12-05 16:05:17, josephnero wrote:
Iphone X scores way ahead of Androids in browsing benchmarks because most of them are meant to work that way. Iphone X VS XZP clearly showed that Sony is far ahead in browsing speed.
And Xperia XZ1/Premium wipes the floor with it (not just browsing performance, in real life
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[ This Message was edited by: Luca-S on 2017-12-06 10:43 ]
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Posted: 2017-12-05 16:43:14
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@lucas
That's what I said buddy isn't it?
[ This Message was edited by: josephnero on 2017-12-05 16:28 ]
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Posted: 2017-12-05 17:23:38
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I have a doubt..
I read this somewhere, just dont rembember exactly where. Maybe DPreview, reddit or other.
Someone on his comment said Xperia cameras acts like the Sony cameras.
Even the post processing was similar, just different quality because is Phone vs Camera.
The icons ( manual, auto, panorana) etc are the same ..
My brother has a cam, he is not photographer but owns a Sony.
I saw it on the camera.
Do ppl from camera division do the phone cam software?
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Posted: 2017-12-05 19:03:16
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