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these people say that the attacks were in response to the massacres Britain committed in Iraq and Afghanistan, as if everyone went to iraq and afghanistan and killed someone. when are they going to learn that its a few politicians who make the decisions, and not the whole country? if i remeber correctly a shit load of people were against the war in the first place.
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Posted: 2005-07-13 15:31:35
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On 2005-07-13 15:31:35, Cornholio_666 wrote:
these people say that the attacks were in response to the massacres Britain committed in Iraq and Afghanistan, as if everyone went to iraq and afghanistan and killed someone. when are they going to learn that its a few politicians who make the decisions, and not the whole country? if i remeber correctly a shit load of people were against the war in the first place.
Its a point they making to the politicians!
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Posted: 2005-07-13 15:44:27
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Its a point they making to the politicians!
I'm sorry but that is the biggest load of bs i've heard. they have no point except maybe all they wanted to do was be martered and remembered by the world as dying for some cause to give their meaningless little lives some short term aim. we should treat them like the man who shot Lennon, so their real motive becomes meaningless. Did Blair suddenly say sh*t what was i thinking of course invading Iraq was wrong...sorry. NO i don't quite remember that.
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Posted: 2005-07-13 21:34:36
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On 2005-07-13 21:34:36, peeta wrote:
Its a point they making to the politicians!
I'm sorry but that is the biggest load of bs i've heard. they have no point except maybe all they wanted to do was be martered and remembered by the world as dying for some cause to give their meaningless little lives some short term aim. we should treat them like the man who shot Lennon, so their real motive becomes meaningless. Did Blair suddenly say sh*t what was i thinking of course invading Iraq was wrong...sorry. NO i don't quite remember that.
What's the point of the war in Iraq?
How should we treat Blair, the murderer of 20,000 innocent Iraqis? What is/was his motive?
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Posted: 2005-07-13 21:37:35
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I note the whole of the European Union will hold two minutes' silence at noon (BST) tomorrow in response to last week's terrorist atrocities in London. (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/articles/PA_NEWA11761221121270173A0?source=PA%20Feed)
I note some other countries the other side of the Atlantic won't.
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Posted: 2005-07-13 21:41:51
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I remember one day is sept 2001 when we held 3 mins of silence for that one country across the atlantic........
Strange how it seems a lifetime ago already
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Posted: 2005-07-13 21:43:03
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I remember one day is sept 2001 when we held 3 mins of silence for that one country across the atlantic........
Strange how it seems a lifetime ago already
It does seem such a long time ago.
Things don't seem to be improving.
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Posted: 2005-07-13 21:49:07
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"What's the point of the war in Iraq?
What is/was his motive?"
Politics and Greed both of which have explanations far too long to go into here but reading Chomskys Understanding Power will go a long way to answering some, but not all, questions.
"How should we treat Blair,..."
With the contempt he deserves
"the murderer of 20,000 innocent Iraqis?"
20 000's an understatement, but anyhow.
None of that merits the bombing of random people who happen to be in the same city at that time, but i'm sure no one here disagrees with that.
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Posted: 2005-07-13 22:06:44
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Ooh, Chomsky. I like Chomsky but I often find him quite difficult (but worth the effort).
I use the figure of 20,000 as it's not disputed. The 'real' figure is, as we know, over 100,000.
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Posted: 2005-07-13 22:11:07
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On 2005-07-13 21:37:35, absinthebri wrote:
What's the point of the war in Iraq?
How should we treat Blair, the murderer of 20,000 innocent Iraqis? What is/was his motive?
Saddam was killing people daily. Although the premise at the time was that Saddam's regime had WMD's (which was later found to be untrue), I believe that the right decision was made, when it was decided to invade. You say that Blair is the murderer of 20,000 people. Incidentally, based on figures from the U.N. this would in fact be a smaller number of fatalities than that of a similar period of time during Saddam's regime. Additionally, may I note that the vast majority of people killed in Iraq now are in fact killed by suicide bombers, who are obviously not affiliated with the US or the UK.
The choice was made to remove the previous Iraqi regime, and the country is now going through a difficult time. However, this is in large part due to the disgusting actions of insurgents of Iraqi and other origin. If they could just accept that their country is in a time of transition. Moving from dictatorship to democracy will take time, and the only hindrance is that of the suicide bombers. I just can't understand why they can't stand back for six months, and they'll have their country fully back in their control.
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Posted: 2005-07-14 00:20:31
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