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On 2014-06-08 08:48:13, Ranjith wrote:
... among the best out there along with HTC and NOKIA.Camera...
EEEHHHMMM NO!
Nokia yes, without a doubt.
But HTC? More like the worst (at least their 4MP ones).
@king-james:
German Sony Fanclub? I'm you're guy!!
[ This Message was edited by: DexterMoser on 2014-06-08 15:14 ]
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Posted: 2014-06-08 16:03:23
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Duo Camera is totally 2014 worst of all pathetic gimmick, is something that all I would say.
That's why they jump into 13Mpx bandwagon in recent model releases (One mini 2, and E8)
You have see the camera teardown both software and hardware
(I would love to give you couple links but I lost all my bookmark few week back).
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Posted: 2014-06-08 16:11:12
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On 2014-06-08 07:53:08, AbhiD999 wrote:
In-transition ? Absolutely not! How more long are they going to be "in transition"?
They are already past that period.
King james says the truth ? I wouldn't accept it even if someone put a gun on my head, especially after he officially ranted on Sony's build quality and design, current superior screen and what not. That was enough to prove his bias.
There are only two legitimate reasons why Sony isn't selling -
1. Availability issues with every single phone out there.
Zero presence in USA and China. Plus these crappy delays like Z2.
2. Absolutely Poor Marketing!
[ This Message was edited by: AbhiD999 on 2014-06-08 07:22 ]
King James has actually owned most if not all of the top-end handsets from most of the major manufacturers inc. Sony. I think he is in a better position to comment than most here. He really wants Sony to succeed and wants to enjoy their products but has fallen in with a few bad units due to early adopter syndrome.
Sony has a great presence here in China, they have numerous China only handsets and their main R&D outside Japan is in Beijing (I drive past it regularly as it is only up the road from me). When I ride the Subway here I see Sonys everywhere. I even saw a T2 Ultra in the wild the other day. They are also not afraid to have floor to ceiling edge to edge poster advertising throughout entire subway stations (hundreds of metres of wall covered), their advertising and presence in China should not be used as an excuse.
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Posted: 2014-06-08 17:31:17
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The problem of the Z1 / Z2 camera is not its software, neither is the 20.7 MPix sensor.
The biggest problem is the
cheap low quality plastic "G" lens in front of the sensor.
I don't know what's the reason they are still doing this? Is it to reduce costs or to prevent cannibalization of their compact cameras, or both?
The reason Apple and Samsung can have better picture quality from the same Sony sensors is not because their camera software is better. Samsung and especially Apple are simply coupling the sensor with higher quality lenses. That is the reason!
Stop blaming Sony's software team for this. Saying they are incompetent and don't know what they are doing is as far from the truth as it can get. It is quite the opposite actually.
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Posted: 2014-06-08 17:37:39
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On 2014-06-08 17:37:39, RandomCarpet wrote:
The problem of the Z1 / Z2 camera is not its software, neither is the 20.7 MPix sensor.
The biggest problem is the cheap low quality plastic "G" lens in front of the sensor.
I don't know what's the reason they are still doing this? Is it to reduce costs or to prevent cannibalization of their compact cameras, or both?
The reason Apple and Samsung can have better picture quality from the same Sony sensors is not because their camera software is better. Samsung and especially Apple are simply coupling the sensor with higher quality lenses. That is the reason!
Stop blaming Sony's software team for this. Saying they are incompetent and don't know what they are doing is as far from the truth as it can get. It is quite the opposite actually.
The lens may be part of the problem, but so is the software. Remember the Z, no G Lens.
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Posted: 2014-06-08 18:06:02
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@itsjustJOH The Z hand worse lens than the G lens the Z1/Z2 have.
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Posted: 2014-06-08 22:34:17
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Might be a physics issue. It gets progressively harder to get a lens to be sharp from corner to corner at a wide aperture of f2, when you increase the sensor size. Obviously the Z1/2's sensor is far larger than all other smartphones (except for the 1020 and 808) and its also of uniform thickness (only 8.3mm) without a camera bulge, which may explain the corner softness. Packing a 5-6 element lens in a space that small, for a sensor that big, is an amazing feat of engineering.
Might be why they're switching to a 1/2.4 and a slightly different design which may accommodate for the camera bulge, for the Z3, get better all around sharpness.
Also, I'm pretty sure all smartphones use plastic lens elements (heck a lot of DSLR lenses use plastic elements).
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Posted: 2014-06-08 22:58:22
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We have a famous saying : Man does not attain all his heart's desires for the winds do not blow as the vessels wish...
I hoped to get the Z2 but it seems I might not get it, it might be Z3 or might be Z4 I don't know exactly...
Any way, I have the new Sony Bravia 60W850B TV sitting in my apartment at the moment
Sadly it doesn't like my S4 and I can't play WiFiDirect contents or screen mirror them
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Posted: 2014-06-09 08:18:36
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I'm not sure why Lund's software team receive such a harsh criticism, Xperia Android software often reserves for praises on it simple look and user friendliness design also they keep continue improvement on certain features to enhance overall user experiences especially Xperia camera apps (NO! don't confuse with software optimization). I think they doing well lately. Overall, stability is fine, of course, some bugs to concern as well (Google Play Services is Google's fault), but everyone in software-sphere has it own problems, iOS has it, Samsung has it even Windows or Mac, say everyone. I don't understand what to complain in angrily fashion.
On software optimization is other way round, very hard, high cost, spend lot of time and man-powers to do so. See how mobile industry is progresses in extremely fast pace shuffle in six months maybe little lower to keep competitive with other, I wonder that how much software team need to hires to do fully optimization for every single device, I told you it's near impossible.
I agree at some point the Exmor RS 20.7 MP should do better as it advertise try persuade us, but improvement on Z2 is nicely done enough, remember that Xperia Z's camera for example it's take more than 6 firmwares to become fine shooter and say this September we will have new camera hardware, cry and complain will be there all and over again?
We always have to sacrifice on something, features or optimization, even iOS is become less stability since iOS 6 to sacrifice on every single new features it get.
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Posted: 2014-06-09 14:29:24
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Any possibility that the next Z devices will adopt anti reflective coating? this is very impressive from corning (watch the video):
http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]-holds-for-smartphones_id56986
this would improve sunlight legibility without needing to increase brightness much resulting in preserving more battery life.
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Posted: 2014-06-09 16:27:51
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