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About your ppi numbers--they seem kind of huge...shouldn't you be using a square root somewhere in your calculations? For example, this would achieve 72dpi, 300dpi, and so on.
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Posted: 2008-09-17 07:11:40
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Guys Guys Guys!
I wonder how many people here use a Linux OS? and how many of those self same people would call Multiple desktops in Linux a "Gimmick"

Just see it for what it is ,the "Panels" are just another way of interfacing with the device OS not some kind of holy grail, no matter what "La La Lee" and her Ilk from Sony Ericsson would like to have us believe. Remember they have to make it sound more exciting and special than it really is or no one will try it!

What we are actually being sold is a Windows Mobile phone with a different way of interfacing with the OS and thats all if you already know you don't like Windows Mobile I wouldn't buy the X1, you will almost certainly be very disappointed! in the words of the song "don't believe the hype!"

I have heard people referring to the Iphone as the device that is leading the market and the standard by which all others will and should be judged, Well this is in my opinion just nonsense.

I know people who have invested good money in the damn thing and cant wait to get back to good old UIQ3 why? because it succeeds! in the important areas the Iphone fails.



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Posted: 2008-09-17 11:51:55
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I'm curious - what are these important areas in which the Iphone fails, and UIQ3 succeeds?
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Posted: 2008-09-17 12:09:38
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Hi all,

Well two things strike me as being incredibly strange from the past few pages of this thread. The first is what is being said and claimed about screen size pixelation and how viewable it will be.

For example for the last 8 months i used an E90 with a 4" screen @ 800x352 now in it's settings it offered three sizes of fonts small, normal or large. None of which lead to pixelation but did change the readability due to changing Font size.

Now i am using a Bold with 2.5" screen @ 480x320 but now i have a choice of 12 different Fonts and 8 different sizes. All on the same screen none of which look pixelated but all that look different from the hard to read for me size 8 to the much to large for me size 14 which again all appear differently dependent of the Font style chosen.

So screen size and resolution alone does not give you the whole picture of what you can or should expect. There are other things you need to factor in, as i have previously mentioned so far on every screen i have seen for the X1 the fonts look very small and difficult to read. Having a 800x480 3" screen seems too make little or no difference to that fact does it? it will be interesting to see just what choice of Fonts and Font size are available and in which screens they will have any effect or not.

The second point is this whole Eco system of the panels and whilst some have tried to explain how useful they may be personally i don't think it's that big a deal IMO.

Now for the $64,000 question will i be able to live my life to the full and exist as a happy and healthy Human being without being part of this new panels Eco system? Who knows but seeing as I've managed 48 years so far I'm going to have to guess yes on that one.

But seriously though come on the panels may offer some nice shortcuts to running apps but it isn't going to change the WM world never mind the whole world. It is what it is some extra functionality that until it's launched and we see just what panels are written for it and how useful it really is we just don't know how good it will or won't be. But really it is just that and the only USP of SE's WM device just see it for what it is.

Marc

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Posted: 2008-09-17 13:38:47
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Hi Boing,

These are the complaints listed to me by three friends in Sweden each of whom currently own an Iphone 3g, as you can see they are not greatly impressed.
As for me I tried one out for a while but didn't really like the interface much, and the battery life was shocking, 12 hours on a good day with all the bells and whistles running so I wont be investing my hard earned.


They don’t like the Camera
They don’t like no MMS
They don’t like no A2DP Bluetooth and lack of compatibility with other devices
They hate the browser and its lack of flash so now they cant get certain sites
They are not that keen on the lack of feedback through the screen!
They don’t like the poor battery life and they can’t now just slot a new one as they did before!
They don’t like no cut and paste
They hate the cost of running the damn thing


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Posted: 2008-09-17 15:00:17
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Mabye a stupid question, but where do you charge the phone from? Cant see any outlets except where the USB-cable is going in.
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Posted: 2008-09-17 15:34:00
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This is the first sensible thing have done in ages the X1 uses Mini USB for charging and Sync! It's almost standardisation
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Posted: 2008-09-17 15:40:50
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most, if not all, WM devices uses mini (or micro) USB for sync and charge

its my preference as well as I have so many other gadgets that can be charged or do data transfer via the same USB to mini USB cable
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Posted: 2008-09-17 15:42:59
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Hi all,

I agree with Masseur that the Mini or Micro USB is indeed a great solution for both charger and or sync and charging although in my case not with a WM device but with a Bold.

Finally i have found a use for an old Motorola V3 usb in car charger that i am now using with my Bold, thankfully i discovered this just prior to buying one for the Bold that it turns out i didn't need.

This is one standardisation that i think really should be in all Mobile devices as it really does simplify things for all of us. One in car charger can last many devices same goes for desktop chargers and syncing cables to. It may not be as profitable for the company whose products we purchase and use but it is better for us and dare i say it the environment to.

Marc

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Posted: 2008-09-17 16:52:25
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Fair enough, but from what I've seen of it (playing in the shop, and reading reviews etc) it seems pretty good for what it is - a simple 2mp snapper. Most say it compares favourably with many of the "better specified" cameras on other smartphones - certainly it would struggle to be worse than the supposedly 3mp, autofocus cam on my current HTC phone.



As with most of the Iphone's missing features, I wouldn't exactly be upset if they added it, but the more I think about this, the less it bothers me. You can still receive MMS (via a message with a link that opens in Safari) and sending pictures by email is a snap. Sending MMS on my Windows Mobile-powered Tytn II is quite a torturous process, and I probably won't miss that.



I've never used A2DP. I guess it's one of those features you either live by, or couldn't care less about. If I can use a bluetooth headset for calls (I don't own one, but can see the point) then I'm happy. With a standard headphone jack, I've no problem using wires for sound.



I don't think there are too many users out there who "hate" Safari... Flash is a rarity on any mobile device, it's just now coming to Opera on certain platforms I guess, but it's far from a widespread feature. Has it ever been available in UIQ3's browser?



That's a bit of a bizarre one - I mean, none of the touchscreens I've used (and I'm used to both generations of UIQ and Windows Mobile) have ever had significant "feedback", only that very slight squishiness inherent in the use of two layers of plastic over the screen. By losing that, you get a much brighter, clearer screen that's easier to read in many more lighting conditions - I'll take that over the barely noticeable "feedback" any day.



It's a HSDPA smartphone, battery life is always poor (my Tytn II lasts a day's full use at best). It's reportedly been improved with 2.1 firmware, and can be improved still further by switching off the 3G when you're not using it, which is quite easy to do in the Iphone's UI.

As for replacement batteries, well, I don't think I've ever once bought a spare battery for any of my phones. My Tytn II could probably have used one once or twice, but the idea of carrying around a fully charged spare on the offchance is still pretty alien to me.



No, me either.



For me, it'll be almost the exact same price as my Tytn II. The Vodafone contract I'm on now, including unlimited internet (which I use) is almost identical in price and minutes etc to the contract O2 are offering the Iphone on.
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Posted: 2008-09-17 17:06:14
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