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On 2008-09-17 18:10:48, Boinng wrote:
Who said anything about changing anything?
I was just interested to see the arguments, since I came around to the Iphone idea a little while ago (waiting till October to get it).
Obviously Sweden still has some staunch support for the UIQ way of doing things, but for me it's history now. I'd take WM over UIQ for all its faults, but in October I'll be taking OSX over both of them.
Hi there, I am not so sure its about staunch Swedish UIQ support base, All the guys I know there use their phones as part of their work and the problem seems to be the Iphone is just not as good for what "THEY" want as their previous devices, which were in all bar one case P1's they other was till using his P990
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Posted: 2008-09-17 21:48:55
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What is this talk about 340MB RAM?
Magnus said 38XMB so it probably got 384MB RAM - he is definitely not talking about ROM in the webcast - or did I miss anything?
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Posted: 2008-09-17 21:49:25
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@sk41s,
Just watched the webcast for the first time and he did say 38x and explain RAM with enough conviction to not doubt him! Got 340MB from UK reports, though I guess to be fair they might in turn have been talking about free RAM on startup...
@whybe
Looks like i'll be sending the touch pro back! You can never have enough RAM in any Windows environment! Hoping WM7 doesn't mix it up too much but from previous coverage main obstacle so far seems gfx acceleration and of course SE's willingness to provide upgrade path. Heck 9 panels doesn't look so bad after all!
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Posted: 2008-09-17 23:16:32
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On 2008-09-17 23:16:32, tregba wrote:
@sk41s,
Just watched the webcast for the first time and he did say 38x and explain RAM with enough conviction to not doubt him! Got 340MB from UK reports, though I guess to be fair they might in turn have been talking about free RAM on startup...
@whybe
Looks like i'll be sending the touch pro back! You can never have enough RAM in any Windows environment! Hoping WM7 doesn't mix it up too much but from previous coverage main obstacle so far seems gfx acceleration and of course SE's willingness to provide upgrade path. Heck 9 panels doesn't look so bad after all!
This is what Magnus Andersson is saying word for word
...and then we have 380 something internal memory, like a working memory, and that is also very competitive, and what that does is that it enables you to run several applications at the same time. It's like on your computer if you have a high RAM memory then you can do allot of things simultaneously, and that’s what it does. It brings you the ability to multitask and do several things at the same time...
[ This Message was edited by: p85w on 2008-09-17 22:49 ]
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Posted: 2008-09-17 23:49:13
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Well, I'm not going to debate whether it has it or not. I believe them. It just seems odd to go that high without warning.
Magnus's explanation was very elementary sounding (so everyone could understand him). This contributed to my feeling that maybe he was misstating something.
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Posted: 2008-09-18 00:10:36
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@p85w
Yup, even though he sounded like a child while explaining it I think his description was conclusive enough that it will come with 384MB of RAM. Though, that being said, he did give an unnervingly long pause when asked the speed of the device!
It is rather late to be changing specs but either way, I guess we will find out soon enough...
[ This Message was edited by: tregba on 2008-09-18 00:07 ]
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Posted: 2008-09-18 01:05:37
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On 2008-09-16 14:21:23, Jabe wrote:
HSDPA is 7.2 Mbps, by the way.
I think you are getting 3.6Mbps HSDPA confused with 3G. 3G tops out at 384Mbps. HSDPA starts at 1.8Mbps at it's slowest implementation, and goes up to 14.4 Mbps. There are many devices with HSDPA 3.6Mbps (my W910 for example), and many devices now have 7.2Mbps.
HSPA+ brings the speeds up to 42Mbps uplink, 22Mbps down.
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Posted: 2008-09-18 01:40:17
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@tregba
Makes me wonder why the whitepaper hasn't been updated yet. The SE X1 spec sites haven't either...
@max_wedge
Isn't the real speed limitation imposed by the max speed allowable by the service provider?
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Posted: 2008-09-18 01:43:39
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On 2008-09-16 17:00:13, Jabe wrote:
and i asked about a higher spec phone as a whole. there are many nice phones out there but you cannot say for any of them they outspec x1, because they also lack some of the functionalities. it comes down to preference what you need and which phone comes closest to your needs/wishes.
That's my point about X1 low spec. What I'm saying is that the panels has the potential to provide a very useful touch interface to the WM UI. If this works, then the X1 could well be popular despite it's low spec. That's all I'm saying. I'm personally a fan of the X1, but if the panels are mediocre in implementation, then X1 really has nothing to distinguish it from faster better phones coming out soon.
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Posted: 2008-09-18 02:05:17
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On 2008-09-18 01:43:39, WhyBe wrote:
@max_wedge
Isn't the real speed limitation imposed by the max speed allowable by the service provider?
No. Of course you can't go faster than the max speed of the provider, but if your phone only supports 3.6Mbps then even if the provider offers faster you will still only get a max. of 3.6Mbps.
The maximum speed of a handset is either the handset's theoretical maximum speed or the operator's maximum speed, which ever is the slowest (and of course governed by network utilisation and reception factors).
Check phone specs on gsm arfena - you will see some HSDPA phones are listed as 3.6Mbps, and some as 7.2Mbps. These are the two common HSDPA standards atm. Soon we should start seeing more 14.4Mbps in that list
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Posted: 2008-09-18 02:13:34
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