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gxg Posts: 270

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On 2006-10-27 13:52:11, Mark_Q wrote:
imsje,

Take a look at the first page of this thread. There you see a screen print of the content of camdriver file with red circle around the hex values that define the JPEG quality.

Unfortunately every developer of this file has his very own way to edit and re-write the original file, so it's not just that simple to figure out where those three vital settings, defining the quality, are located.



as i remember those values in hex represents the min aver max sizes picture can take in those 8 modes.. so.. the quality in this case maybe is represented by: size/compression

but lately torry notice that 1 wrong value in apparently no harmfull place can alter the pictures in manny ways. That's why I yell that takes time to develop. It was verry useful to modify some parameters and let others to test.. but this is the HARD way and takes time with feedback. The easy way is to test in your own phone till something resembling to reality comes along. Then we post for further tests. And this way.. i f**k my camera button, my phone, my free time.... that's why I can't stand to see other wise arse f**ng arrownd with my tone of my posts, instead looking in the work.

and when you work 3-4 -5 hours per day @ some things... and wait your feedback from forum... and you read only noob undocumented questions.. normal you'll be pissed ... 1 is acceptable. but for wise arse to comment your truly, ironic, straight answer... is too much.

so.. back... the quality of these pictures will never be compared with digital cameras. and the compresion factor is in fact the quality factor via picture size. I thot that limiting the size to a half of it's max possibility allowed by software.. i'll get a middle way: quality/quantity.

I proved that you can take good sharp, clear photos with 390 kb.. and not too different than 600 kb.
i'll be back with moore commets.. now i have to test the driver.
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Posted: 2006-10-27 14:19:59
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wiser Posts: 26

@ e_erzan

i tested ur 30.1 yesterday.....my opinion.....a little too sharp....colors r ok....but didnt make ALOT of pics.....just few....and compared with torryx drv and 7.12......


@toryxx

ur drv its good....but ...my point is......not much diference on these last drivers....meaning....not much diference between ur drv and 7,12


just waitin to test that new drv andeo said few pages ago....about ***improve smoothness of video record more than 50%***......cuz about pictures ...not much diference......


so...E man ....ur drv its good....u had right.....video its the same.....or no major diferences.....just a bit too much noise on darkest areas.....but it has a +++ of clarity....so.....just a bit workin on that noise and its ok.....
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Posted: 2006-10-27 14:54:48
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wiser Posts: 26

@ gxg

i thought we r done with f*ckin each other......bein smart but actin stupid doesnt make u stupid.....but few cant tell the diference.....i can see that my posts have an echo on ur every future post....so....

flintolino saw that u hadnt same atitude since u got here 1st....and posted 1st time on this topic.....so.....and i saw and everybody who was here saw.......
...anyway...im talkin about facts .....im not talkin about whos cursing much and and diferent variations....just to show u know how to play with words...


***lets understaind each other....and i just said im sory and dont want to continue arguing and ironic mention about wise arse.....


wats andeo doin ??.....he said u 2 r workin about "improve smoothness of video record more than 50%"....cant wait......if u want me to help with something ....i can try.....if i could....i would stay on 7.12 ....best so far on my opinion.....but it just crashes on picture mode ...

i just see this topic dead......cuz before there were 3.1 and 2.44 and everybody wanted to see wats better....then andeo came with 7.7 ....everybody said its best so far......then u came with 7.11.....and this one was best.....and now from 7.11 there r so many derivates....just got where we came from......and after u i can see others comin with another drivers....better....and not gettin anywhere...just rounding in circles...1st in bigger circles....and smaller and smaller.....until theres nothin much to change....and all look almost the same....some r better on nite mode...others on day light....others indoors....and on and on...


in 5 months everyone wanted to show their drv....and got to 260++...im just sayin now that everybody blocked on 7.11 ...someone will come with a better one...and this will never end....


have a nice day al of u
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Posted: 2006-10-27 15:59:06
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ToryXX Posts: 495

helloooo my driver i just fixed the overexpuse that's all,if you make pictues in sun please compare with the anothers driver and then you will see...something else i let it like in 7.11 or 7.12....aaa and sure in the night is not yellow...you know with led

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On 2006-10-27 14:54:48, wiser wrote:
@ e_erzan

i tested ur 30.1 yesterday.....my opinion.....a little too sharp....colors r ok....but didnt make ALOT of pics.....just few....and compared with torryx drv and 7.12......


@toryxx

ur drv its good....but ...my point is......not much diference on these last drivers....meaning....not much diference between ur drv and 7,12


just waitin to test that new drv andeo said few pages ago....about ***improve smoothness of video record more than 50%***......cuz about pictures ...not much diference......


so...E man ....ur drv its good....u had right.....video its the same.....or no major diferences.....just a bit too much noise on darkest areas.....but it has a +++ of clarity....so.....just a bit workin on that noise and its ok.....

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Posted: 2006-10-27 16:06:43
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ToryXX Posts: 495

wiser please post some pictures in original size with ver30.1 from eman and my with my driver
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Posted: 2006-10-27 16:10:58
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Mark_Q Posts: 138

wiser,

I'm curious; what's your definition to photo being too sharp?!? Too much resolution or too much oversharpening artefacts around the edges. Or do you just prefer low JPEG quality, that might "mess up" the ecsessive amount of details your eys can't handle?

Nothing personal, I just don't get how on earth a 2MP could be too sharp? We need common language to understand each other - a a full size sample would tell more than poorly expressed critical notes. No resized garbage, thank you.
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Posted: 2006-10-27 16:44:15
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wiser Posts: 26

hey toryxx

i will.....but cant right now.....how do u want them ?....indoors ? in the sun ?didnt test drv with sun....only indoors.....and neither in nite mode....cuz i consider that u cant make quality pics in bad light.....they r improoved....but not quality....and im saying that comparing a real digital camera (canon..benq...hp) and this phone camera.....outside...with good light....there r very close quality.....but on night and indoors......its a big diference....so i try to make pics only on good light.....but its my opinion


i'll post comparation of ur and e man drv.....very soon
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Posted: 2006-10-27 16:48:43
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wiser Posts: 26

hey mark q

as i said....pics made only indoors....

i will post a comparation between them...

what i saw was the shadow.....much clear on 30.1 than 7.12 and toryxx's drv.....but a bit noise on dark areas.....i'll show u tomorrow...still dont know if u get me mark but hope u do



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Posted: 2006-10-27 16:57:42
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heins Posts: 152

Just a quick test, have been a storm here this night.

7.11 Toryxx

[img=http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/6484/dsc01899wc4.th.jpg]

E-erzan 30.1 edited

[img=http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/949/dsc01900cm1.th.jpg]




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K750i/R1CA021/512mb msdp/custom menu/original displaydriver/no focus sound/testing 7.11 camdriver.

[ This Message was edited by: heins on 2006-10-27 16:05 ]

[ This Message was edited by: heins on 2006-10-27 16:11 ]
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Posted: 2006-10-27 17:02:08
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ToryXX Posts: 495

please heins and wiser put also a link for full size ,without resizing i think like this is right and wiser will be nice if you can put here form outside one pic and from inside...not all...but just 1 like this and 1 like this you know will be very nice ...in original size you can make it with this website .......the original size of the pictures

http://img100.imageshack.us/
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Posted: 2006-10-27 17:06:51
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