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Posted: 2013-08-20 18:33:51
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On 2013-08-20 18:24:47, G3ORGE wrote:
On 2013-08-20 02:32:57, northmonkey wrote:
Windows Phone is growing though going by sales and reports so hopefully more and more people and developers will jump on the bandwagon.
It takes time, it took along time for android to topple iOS, WP should get there within the next year or two and then get bigger and bigger.
Some things about WP I really like but the top apps like Ebay, Whatsapp, Facebook, Twitter etc are total garbage on Windows Phone, they don't do half of the functions that the iOS and android versions do and this really does need sorting, along with a lot of other things otherwise Nokia and Microsoft are finished.
I've just got my 920 but I think I'm gonna get the 1020 within the next 2 months so I really hope WP gets better.
It seems that Microsoft themselves don't take Windows Phone seriously, they are moving at a snail's pace, they are very quiet about it, that does not inspire confidence.
So naturally third parties won't bother. Developing an application takes a lot of time and resources, WP has a tiny marketshare, and considering how many partners in the industry Microsoft has bullied in the past and mistreated, it's not surprise that no one is doing them favours by developing applications for them. Apple has a very powerful following and even when they were down, their supporters stood by them, Microsoft does not have this privilege, their strength was in them positioning themselves in such a way that it was not possible to avoid them. Now when people have other options, they go there.
And the bottom line is that, if you think about it: iOS and Android, are more mature, have much more functionality, even iOS is more open than WP, which is extremely restricted, they have much more applications AND they are progressing faster. So if you spending money, where will you go?
Nokia on their part, while their designs are great, IMO, they dropped the ball with cameras. Lumia 1020 is not a successor to 808 it should've been, it's neither fish nor fowl, it's neither a slim device, nor is it the best cameraphone(808 is) with the biggest/best sensor. It also seems that Nokia was unsuccessful in porting Symbian's imaging algorithms to Windows Phone, because all their WP cameras take very mediocre pictures. And while the iPhone and Galaxy S are moving towards more natural and realistic looking images, Nokia is moving the other way. They are chasing trends instead of setting them like they did before with the N95, N86, N8, 808.
As I stated before, I would've bought 1020 if it was really better than 808. But a superb camera is literally the only thing that can sell me a WP. And Nokia knows this very well, that's why they are advertising cameras over and over, what else can they offer? Nothing really.
[ This Message was edited by: G3ORGE on 2013-08-20 17:28 ]
Nokia is carrying the platform on their shoulders.. if it wasn't for Nokia, WP would've been done by now. That is why as soon as they signed that contract back in 2011 I knew that it was probably one of the best business maneuvers Microsoft has pulled in the last decade. Its textbook stuff...
It seems that now they will try to use the Nokia brand name to rescue Windows RT as well... we will se how much they can squeeze out of Nokia.. I think there is still plenty to go by.
As far as imaging.. they will fix it, but it will take a while. The 1020 is not as good as the 808, its pretty obvious by now... I knew it right after I saw the first official photograph from Nokia, but I think its pretty clear now that it has inferior IQ overall.
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Posted: 2013-08-20 18:38:57
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That's true about Nokia but MS needs more OEM's and more developers for apps. HTC have dropped below 5% of WP market share and there isn't many other manufacturers willing to take the OS on.
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Posted: 2013-08-20 18:49:37
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Thanks
Cu015170 for sharing these new pictures !
It's amazing the amount of noise that appears in images, except the image of drink by the pool, all other images are disappointing in this regard !
Sad to see what Nokia is becoming after the departure of
Damian Dinning !
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Posted: 2013-08-20 19:22:20
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On 2013-08-20 19:22:20, Sonysta wrote:
Thanks
Cu015170 for sharing these new pictures !
It's amazing the amount of noise that appears in images, except the image of drink by the pool, all other images are disappointing in this regard !
Sad to see what Nokia is becoming after the departure of
Damian Dinning !
Yes.. why is there such a big difference in noise levels from different 1020 pictures ? I don't get it.. are some of those zoomed/cropped from a full resolution image.. maybe ?
I dunno.. but I don't like what I am seeing
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Posted: 2013-08-20 19:33:18
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@cu015170, wow at those images
Look at their faces! I don't even know where to start from describing how much is wrong with those images. The quality is awful, what was Nokia doing, seriously.
You may think I am joking but I am pretty certain an iPhone 5 or Galaxy S4 would take more natural, more pleasant and better images. I'm not even talking about 808.
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Posted: 2013-08-20 20:20:19
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Nokia even said that their Amber Update was supposed to improve image quality but I cannot see that. They ain't that bad but not what I expected. The GS4 takes pin sharp images. Look at the image of the couple by the lake,on the boat. The image has alot of grain
Has the famous Nokia Lumia oil painting look to images close up. Nothing like the 808
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Posted: 2013-08-20 20:54:50
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I'm glad that I'm not the only one that noticed the oil painting effect in Lumias, Bonovox.
I frankly think that Nokia will most likely not fix their problems with WP. They seem to be very happy with these results.
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Posted: 2013-08-20 21:37:04
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There's something wrong.. there shouldn't be so much grain at 100 iso
Here is one from the 808 at 320, tricky light, and still... way cleaner
The 808 is almost noise free at 100 ... and even cleaner at 50
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Posted: 2013-08-20 22:37:36
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Yeah it's not really what I expected from Pureview. But I am not bothered anyway as I am not going to buy one.
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Posted: 2013-08-20 22:38:55
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