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Yeah no problem I was just saying
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Posted: 2004-07-27 16:01:59
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It is the power behind Bush's throne...
Esso gave $1.376 million to the Republicans in the 2000 election cycle - more than any other oil company. 91% of its political donations went to the Republicans. As soon as George Bush became president, he pulled the United States out of the Kyoto Protocol, the only international agreement to address global warming exactly the policy that Esso was promoting. As the USA is responsible for 25% of the pollution that causes global warming, this has a massive effect on the efficacy of the protocol.
SPANK ESSO!
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Posted: 2004-07-27 16:15:43
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On 2004-07-27 10:19:15, lor wrote:
I don't need any articles, bush is a b***** and he deserve a fate worst than whatever's comin to him.
Really? Why?
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Posted: 2004-07-27 17:01:13
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On 2004-07-27 10:28:10, lor wrote:
There's nothing to argue about actually. Any decent human being knows that he's a piece of dog crap and a b*****. But I know one thing, he has destroyed america. But there'll always be people to support him. And anyone that supports him are just slimballs and piece of crap themselves. I mean, why else would they support someone like that? They probably like what he's doing, they're into everything. Sadist, sickos, weirdos, inhuman, cruel, animals!!!!!
You have some very strong opinions of people there. Too bad you're either unwilling or unable to defend those opinions.
BTW: Just to be honest - I admit to being a bit of a Sadist, frequently I'm a sicko, and I'm just about always a weirdo. As for inhuman ... cruel ... an animal ... slimeball ... piece of crap ... well "Sticks & Stones" my friend!
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[ This Message was edited by: Patrick-in-CA on 2004-07-27 16:16 ]
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Posted: 2004-07-27 17:05:42
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On 2004-07-27 16:15:43, batesie wrote:
It is the power behind Bush's throne...
Nice rhetoric .. throne ... like Bush is a King. Well done.
Quote:Esso gave $1.376 million to the Republicans in the 2000 election cycle - more than any other oil company. 91% of its political donations went to the Republicans.
Wow, imagine that. An oil company as big as Esso gave the largest political contribution of any other oil company to ... GASP! ... The Republicans! Oh My Gosh!!! I can't believe it. You mean they would actually support the political party that agrees with them and how they want to do business!?
Quote:As soon as George Bush became president, he pulled the United States out of the Kyoto Protocol, the only international agreement to address global warming exactly the policy that Esso was promoting.
So their money was very well spent indeed. Smart people there in Esso. Who would have guessed that Bush, if elected, would pull out of such an anti-economy, anti-business, anti-industry treaty? Anyone?
Quote:As the USA is responsible for 25% of the pollution that causes global warming, this has a massive effect on the efficacy of the protocol.
Again, I'm completely floored ... I mean ... just WOW. So if the people who really believe in the Kyoto Treaty want it to work, they need to get the USA to sign onto it (assuming your 25% assertion is even near the truth - who knows, maybe the USA produces more)? Well, it looks like those interested parties better get themselves busy finding ways to entice the USA to do the right thing. Hey ... I got an idea. Why don't you just shout "The USA sucks!" like a mantra until they sign it.
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Oh, you've been doing that already? How's it working?
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Posted: 2004-07-27 17:25:38
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quote @patrick in ca
. So if the peoplewho really believe in the Kyoto Treatywant it to work, they need to get theUSA to sign onto it (assuming your 25%assertion is even near the truth - whoknows, maybe the USA producesmore)?
youre right! thats what the US admits to, other countries believe its more!
you really dont care that damaging the environment will end up screwing up the economy anyway. the worlds second biggest insurer is predicting a major increase in premiums if adverse weather caused by global warming gets worse..
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Posted: 2004-07-27 17:50:00
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On 2004-07-27 17:50:00, batesie wrote:
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. So if the peoplewho really believe in the Kyoto Treatywant it to work, they need to get theUSA to sign onto it (assuming your 25%assertion is even near the truth - whoknows, maybe the USA producesmore)?
youre right! thats what the US admits to, other countries believe its more!
you really dont care that damaging the environment will end up screwing up the economy anyway. the worlds second biggest insurer is predicting a major increase in premiums if adverse weather caused by global warming gets worse..
1) Please link us to or site the source where the US admits to producing 25% of the worlds population. Just to make sure you're not fibbing to make a political point.
2) I care about the environment.
3) It appears what I believe about the environment and what you believe about the environment are not the same.
4) I'm willing to learn more - but just so you know - I learn more, and I learn much faster - when people site sources and use logic in their reasoning. This compared to just shouting at the top of your voice in my face, spit flying all over, that I'm (what have I been called in these threads) a sadist, sicko, weirdo, inhuman, cruel, animal, slimeball, piece of crap, racist, stupid, ignorant idiot.
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Posted: 2004-07-27 18:15:00
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@Patrick - what about if, theoretically a new agreement is drawn up, something like the Kyoto agreement - would the US sign up?
More specifically, what kind of envoronmental controls/legislation etc. do you think that the US would sign up for? e.g. pledge to reduce emissions by 10%, increase recycling to a certain percentile, funding for developing cleaner fuels, etc.?
Excuse the brevity of this post, I'm in the process of changing the LCD and facia on a T610 as we speak!!
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Posted: 2004-07-27 18:33:22
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On 2004-07-27 18:33:22, Sammy_boy wrote:
@Patrick - what about if, theoretically a new agreement is drawn up, something like the Kyoto agreement - would the US sign up?
More specifically, what kind of envoronmental controls/legislation etc. do you think that the US would sign up for? e.g. pledge to reduce emissions by 10%, increase recycling to a certain percentile, funding for developing cleaner fuels, etc.?
Excuse the brevity of this post, I'm in the process of changing the LCD and facia on a T610 as we speak!!
I wouldn't know for sure what would be agreed upon in general. But know this. Right now the US is sharply devided about how important the Kyoto Treaty was and why we were or were not involved in it. Environmental statistics and theories asside - and Politial Science to the front - the less you make the US do, the more pressure the administration (any administration) will be under to join in. This goes for other economic incentives as well - like reduced terrifs or more favorable balance of trade deficits. I'm not saying you have to sell the farm to get the environment protected ... but considering that the current administration is only able to justify the US not being involed in the Kyoto Treaty by saying it will hurt our economy ... find creative ways to support economic activity in even little ways and it will become more and more difficult for the US to say no. The fact is, most Americans would like to protect the environment. Lead the way world!!!
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Posted: 2004-07-27 19:15:59
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patrick if your going to stoop to accusing me of the insults above, most of which i have never used on esato, you might as well not bother talking to me because your just not doing yourself any favours.
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Posted: 2004-07-27 19:18:00
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