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Whatever happened to the quest for smaller phones?
Ahh, they were definitely the halcyon days.
Remember when people wowed over the T68 cos it was so tiny. Then the small nokias came which went down very well.
Then the t600 arrived you thought 'wow, this is as good as it gets' .
Then the t610? All could be lifted to your ear with ease and you had to slap your pocket every 3 minutes just to make sure the phone was still there!!!
Now people are supposed to walk around with this!!
Warra larf?
[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2005-08-17 11:10 ]
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Posted: 2005-08-17 12:02:09
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DickySnapples Posts: > 500
what have you people been smoking?
its not that big
[ This Message was edited by: Dicky Snapples on 2005-08-17 11:25 ]
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Posted: 2005-08-17 12:21:51
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It isn’t my intention to start a N91 v W800 discussion I just need to point out a few things
"you don't think making it a mini ipod isn't a direct response to SE starting to market music based phones?" Gigs
If I checked correctly Samsung released a phone in 2000 that had MP3 Player capabilities,
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/telecom/1279751.html
now that 4 or more years have gone SE thought it was time to introduce the world to an MP3 Player phone but this one had had external memory. Do you seriously think this is advancement? This Phone could have come out 2 years ago and it would have still had exactly the same MP3 Player capabilities, yes the phone has other features similar to the K750 but this phone is being marketed as a walkman phone. The fact is that the N91 has come out at a time when small hard drives are cheap and becoming mainstream i.e., most new mp3 players are hard drive based.
“Will it come packaged with decent headphones, will the mp3 audio be on par, sub par or better than the W800/k750 ? Packing every feature in under the sun is great, but will the battery last past sending a text message to make use of it all? how durable will the harddrive be? Lots of questions about it but until they make it tangible then who knows.” Gigs
All valid questions but I never said the phone would be bug or glitch free actually with amount of times firmware or phone software is updated I would be surprised if the N91 was glitch free, my point was instead of Nokia releasing a phone which has slots for two or three memory cards they went against the trend into uncharted territory;
Why else would you ask these questions?
“but will the battery last past sending a text message to make use of it all? how durable will the harddrive be?”
The fact is nobody knows that’s why this phone is special it’s not the expected.
“Is the N91 revolutionary?” gigs
Yes it is:
Revolution “a drastic and far-reaching change in ways of thinking and behaving”
If it were not revolutionary we would have seen it a long time ago like flash memory MP3 player mobile phones.
One last thing I checked on several websites and the W800 is advertised at £330-£380 sim free, on this site
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/mo[....]=/money/2005/07/17/ixcoms.html
the N91 is advertised at approx £450, to get N91 MP3 player capabilities on the W800 you would have to shell out at least £150 even then you may only get 2Gigs more memory. The N91 is excellent value for money and I know a lot of SE fans hate it for many reasons but there’s one reason that seems to stand out the most is the fact that it has a Nokia logo instead of SE logo on the front.
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Posted: 2005-08-17 12:53:42
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personally I don't hate it, and I accept it's good points, but is it really that much better than K750, just because of onboard memory capacity? I don't think so myself. The camera isn't as good as the K750, but the video recorder is better. It's much of a muchness. It's a niche device and will obviously suit some people down to the ground, but it won't be a market killer.
What I think SE fans get frustrated with is being told it is the answer to everything and we must be stupid if we don't like it.
If I absolutely needed a smartphone, I still wouldn't accept 1. a clamshell (my least liked form factor) and 2. the size of the thing. I'd be more inclined towards an xda mini (atleast it's small and candybar-ish). It crashes a lot, but if I needed a smartphone that badly I'd have the xda mini over the massive nokia. The XDA mini atleast has expandable memory and a 1.3 megapixel cam, and a touch screen to boot.
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Posted: 2005-08-17 13:13:02
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You certailly seem to have a point there ! Any news when the N90 arrives to South Africa ? Nokia should increase the production line,because there are whole countries out there waiting for this 'MONSTER'. Greetings from South Africa. Mario ;-)
This message was posted from a Nokia 7650
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Posted: 2005-08-17 13:13:24
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I know a lot of SE fans hate it for many reasons but there’s one reason that seems to stand out the most is the fact that it has a Nokia logo instead of SE logo on the front.
(Note this is about N91, not N90)
I agree with your viewpoint.
fans wish
had something like this... But niet.... They have to wait for such thing will eventually be released by
(but then it will be so innovative, so beautiful... so walkman... so déjà-vu)
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Posted: 2005-08-17 13:36:23
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man, it is not so good that you can say SE have nothing like it. They don't have anything EXACTLY like it, but SE have some very good phones.
Sheesh, just because it has a 4GB hard drive (n91) you think it's better? K750 will support the upcoming 4GB ms duo pro cards.
I admit if you absolutely need a smartphone it's a nice proposition, but me personally would go the xda mini for the reasons I mentioned. SE certainly have nothing to offer smartphone wise if you are looking for decent memory expansion (over 2GB) and decent camera, but smartpnone is still not something the market demands. Whenever phones are advertised, it never mentions the fact the phone is "smart" or not, unless it is marketed as a PDA.
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Posted: 2005-08-17 13:52:46
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I'm not going to start flaming the N90/N91. I went off Nokia phones a long time ago. They seem to be heading towards more and more nice markets. They never seem to make a phone with all the capabilities anyone would ask for - PLUS a little bit extra - in a small form factor. Anything they do that's different seems to be in a device the size of a brick. Kudos to them, however, for being first to market with innovative devices.
SE success is based on delivering devices that have everything you want in a phone (including the small form factor) PLUS the little bit extra. EG: the W800i/K750i. This is why their phones have been so successful.
The mass market doesn't need smartphones just yet and the technology in terms of displays and batteries isn't there yet for a smartphone that is small and powerful enough to be a practical everyday device.
Whatever is in a Nokia today will eventually find it's way into the SEs, Siemens and Motorolas of tomorrow. There's room for all of them without writing anything off.
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Posted: 2005-08-17 14:50:55
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@Ruudfood.
I agree with what you say. I can't think what market Blokia are aiming this product at.
@Dickysnapples
When the N90 is open, it is double the length of a P900, thats one big MF!
The reason why the P910 is the length it is is because it has incorporated that lovely big screen.
Whats the N90s excuse?
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Posted: 2005-08-17 15:29:12
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4 gigs without expansion?? So if Sony starts making 4 gig + mem cards then what??
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Posted: 2005-08-17 16:00:23
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