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One more thing on the K750/W800 they have 2mp cams, quite large pics and to 'QUICKSHARE' it will depend on the networks gprs speed, where if it had edge it would be able to send larger kb pics much faster!!!
I hate it when you send a pic and the recipient gets it 2 days later!!
So yip EDGE is definately worth it. Why dont you guys have edge in the UK??? Not even one network that supports it???
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Posted: 2005-08-25 08:48:57
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@Reo,glad to see your getting very sweet speeds for your average. Nice indeed.
@786, just a little fyi. Mms delay on networks is on purpose. Voice calls always takes precedence, then sms, then data which includes surfing on port 80 or mms. You dont want to make a 911 call and get a busy tone or not reachable msg response from the network.
But i see what you mean. Here 300kb is the max limit of mms, i send 4photos min at a time via email thru data service which is hella slow for gprs.
I fail to see how a mid market phone aimed at a worldwide market not a target market like a fashion phone, k750 vs Moto Razr respectively, would miss wider appeal by not implementing edge. Cost is neglidgable with such mass production & using platform from ericsson directly. At least since my arguement in the mega debate for more edge phones from them resulted in more choice;they just missed it in the k750. Im still gonna buy one.
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Posted: 2005-08-25 10:17:48
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mmm Calls and gprs dont effect eachother AFAIK!!!
BTW even the stupid little 3220 has edge...
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Posted: 2005-08-25 10:47:37
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mmm Calls and gprs dont effect eachother AFAIK!!!
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They do affect each other as they doth take up bandwidth on the transmitter towers.
In the UK we dont have EDGE as all but one of the major networks has 3G and to implement both standards would have cost more money. Also because EDGE is part of the 2G system when 2G is eventually phased out in favour of 3G, like 1g was phased out in favour of 2G, the technology will be useless thus making 3G a longer lasting standard.
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Posted: 2005-08-25 12:32:52
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On 2005-08-25 10:47:37, 786KBR wrote:
mmm Calls and gprs dont effect eachother AFAIK!!!
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They do affect each other as they doth take up bandwidth on the transmitter towers.
In the UK we dont have EDGE as all but one of the major networks has 3G and to implement both standards would have cost more money.
Also because EDGE is part of the 2G system when 2G is eventually phased out in favour of 3G, like 1g was phased out in favour of 2G, the technology will be useless thus making 3G a longer lasting standard.
We got V/phone partnered with one of our networks, we also have our second biggest network, (no v/phone) They have, GPRS, GPRS+, EDGE and 3G!!!
GSM network phasing out, not in the near future!!!
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Posted: 2005-08-25 12:39:18
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People please, there is not a big market in Europe for EDGE. Ultimately, the faster UMTS will be rolled out here. As for more american phones getting EDGE, that's great if you're in the states, but here in europe SE will continue to make UMTS phones alongside GSM phones with only an occasional EDGE phone. So it's doubtfull you'll ever have a wider range of choices when you want an SE EDGE phone on a plan in the shops. Simply since the majority of consumers (where the money is) will remain on gsm for a while as UMTS is still relatively expensive and drains your battery (not to mention all the questionmarks around the high radiation).
K750 with EDGE? Course not, that would make it too expensive and uninteresting for the masses it is now reaching. Same goes for the W800. I doubt they will release a walkman phone with 3G for quite a while as they still can't make batteries run on air. lol
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Posted: 2005-08-25 12:57:22
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Why would it make it expensive??? Like I said earlier the 3220 has edge!! Thats not expensive!
Its v/fones bright idea not to have edge, If orange/02 or whatever other network you have decides to bring in edge, believe me they will have EDGE!!!
As for UMTS taking over GSM! It wont happen unless they invest billions and trillions in stabilising it to accomadate milions of users at a time!!!
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Posted: 2005-08-25 13:14:21
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@786kbr. We seem to be going around in circles here. SE's core market is Europe. Operators are pushing 3G. They need people to buy 3G. They have invested a lot in 3G. They want 3G phones in their line up. They would rather people didn't use ANYTHING ELSE including EDGE. It would be an economic blunder for them to have people using Edge instead of 3G. So maybe SE provides mainly 3G and not edge handsets for the European market for them. Do you see what I'm getting at?
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Posted: 2005-08-25 13:53:09
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w0ah somebody fill me in! wats EDGE? is that just uber fast internet?!
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Posted: 2005-08-25 14:04:53
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@786kbr. We seem to be going around in circles here. SE's core market is Europe. Operators are pushing 3G. They need people to buy 3G. They have invested a lot in 3G. They want 3G phones in their line up. They would rather people didn't use ANYTHING ELSE including EDGE. It would be an economic blunder for them to have people using Edge instead of 3G. So maybe SE provides mainly 3G and not edge handsets for the European market for them. Do you see what I'm getting at?
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1. I get that, Vodafone here have the same setup and think edge is a waste!!
2. Our other network, (who has 3G and edge)(
base towers) are stealing the vodafone customers!!
I went on some training on vodafone.
What I understand is 3G uses GPRS as a back up, if you lose 3G signal it automatically switches to GPRS and back to 3g depending on the area u in, , so wouldnt edge be a better default data carrier????!! Yes it would and thats why
has an edge enabled 3g data card!!!!
I think it would, but i dont doubt vodafones strategists maybe they have somthing up their sleeve ... or they just stingy!!
BTW our other network, very small independent company not a lot of money power compared to vodafone decided to go full ahead and has all types of data, and they gaining customers!!!
If
rather follow eurpean trends theres not much I can do, exept go to nokia.... or samsung... small maybe!!
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