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Muckle_Eck Posts: 5

Hi all,

I have had the following response from SonyEricsson help desk:

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Thank you for contacting the Sony Ericsson Call Centre.

With regards to your enquiry, we do not have any information concerning future support for A2DP. At present, no Sony Ericsson phones support A2DP.

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Not good news!!!


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Posted: 2005-11-15 13:09:39
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max_wedge Posts: > 500

Apparently the W900 and P990 will be supporting A2DP, but hasn't been tested by this guy (cause they aren't out yet):

http://www.robertwebbe.nl/A2DP.html

[ This Message was edited by: max_wedge on 2005-11-16 09:07 ]
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Posted: 2005-11-16 10:06:03
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masseur Posts: > 500

there is no P990 whitepaper yet but I definitly can't see a2dp listed ni the profiles for the W900 in its whitepaper


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Posted: 2005-11-16 10:15:17
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max_wedge Posts: > 500

hmmm, I found this link: http://digitalcameras.engadget.com/entry/1234000243060273/

makes me think the W900 a2dp was just a rumour that sprang from this article or similar. This robert webbe character was very certain of a2dp support in another post, but I can't find a thing on google that supports his claim...
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Posted: 2005-11-16 13:20:49
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lordlupin Posts: 2

I talked to the SE helpdesk (UK) today and they said that no phones made by them support A2DP and from what i have found out on the net, all of the bluetooth stereo headsets need A2DP to play stereo music from an audio player on your phone to the bluetooth headset. Most won't even play audio without A2DP although some say you'll just get a mono audio signal (not sure whether that is true or not). If a bluetooth headset says it is compatable with an SE phone then it is only for using as a headset or handsfree kit. This seems like misleading information if you ask me as no-one is going to buy big chunky stereo headphones and then just use them as a handsfree kit.

If, like me, you didn't realise this before paying 65 quid for a pair of bluetooth headphones you might be a bit pis*ed off, especially since the SE website and manual for my phone don't mention the profiles that the K750i DO support. I assumed that since the K750i played music and supported bluetooth V2, there would be no problem. It was only when i started to read this forum posting that i realised you could look at the 'whitepaper' for a particular phone but they aren't exactly easy to find on the website. Bluetooth info like this should be easy to find in the tech spec for each product they sell and not hidden away where we may or may not find it.

Not only is all of that annoying, but the K750i doesn't even have a normal 3.5mm jack for me to plug in a normal pair of headphones or bluetooth dongle for my headphones. It seems that the only headphones i can play music on from my K750i is the shi*ty, in-the-ear pair you get with the phone as you need to use the extremely unusual connector located on the base of the phone. Of course, you could spend some money and get one of the other 2 sets that SE sell, the HPM-70 or HPM-20, but, if like me, you really enjoy listening to music with a pair of headphones which aren't in-the-ear, then your kind of screwed unless you fork out more money.

As someone mentioned earlier, you could use the MMC-60 cable adapter but you'd need to find a set of headphones which connect using 2 phono cables (which is very unlikely, possibly even impossible) or get an adapter to convert the 2-phono output of the MMC-60 to a 3.5mm female jack which you could then plug a pair of normal 3.5mm male jack headphones into.

Also, i just found a 'Sony Ericsson K750i / W800i Stereo Audio Adapter' ( http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/7265.htm ) which means that you can plug in any set of normal headphones you want to use for music. If you really want, you can then get a bluetooth dongle/adapter ( http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/7632.htm - the adapter for my bluetooth headphones isn't cheap) with a pair of bluetooth stereo headphones (mine were £65) and plug the dongle/adapter into the 'Sony Ericsson K750i / W800i Stereo Audio Adapter' which means you can use bluetooth headphones to listen to music. The K750i/W800i stereo audio adapter and the bluetooth dongle would have to sit in your pocket/bag with your phone and although neither of these 2 options would be a full handsfree kit (i think you would know when you get a phone call, but you would have to use the phone normally for the call as the stereo audio adapter is one-way only) at least you could have a wireless setup to listen to music.

Also, you could get a 'Retractable Stereo Audio Adapter - Sony Ericsson W800i/K750i' ( http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/8177.htm ) and plug normal headphones into it. it wouldn't be prctical to use with bluetooth headphones but it does feature a microphone and would be useable as a full handsfree kit with the headphones of your choice. Unfortunately SE haven't released it yet.

Also, as someone mentioned, the K750i isn't exactly the loudest audio player in the world. I turned up all of the EQ bands on my phone to full which made a bit of a difference but i can still hear conversations of other people on the bus or the engine noise of cars on the street.

In conclusion, i'm pis*ed off with SE for being misleading or evasory regarding the capabilities of bluetooth profiles their phones provide, and also for the misleading info that many stereo bluetooth headset manufacturers give when they say their headset is compatable with a particular phone as they don't give you the specifics of the bluetooth profiles which their headset can use on that phone.

Although SE haven't bothered to put A2DP into their phones yet (and i seriously hope i get a firmware upgrade for it in the future from them), at least i can still be wireless for my music, although it will cost me another 40 or 50 quid to get there.

Hopefully this has been helpful for some of you and apologies for the rant-like quality of this post. I had been looking forward to easy-to-use bluetooth audio and was sorely disappointed.

Cheers

Bone

[ This Message was edited by: lordlupin on 2005-11-17 18:35 ]

[ This Message was edited by: lordlupin on 2005-11-17 18:38 ]
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Posted: 2005-11-17 19:24:06
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max_wedge Posts: > 500

The HPM-70 has a 3.5mm audio connector and comes with earbud headphones standard but you can use any audio equipment with a 3.5mm jack. Using adapters you can plug the phone into your stereo if you want. or an FM transmitter. or ur nice headphones.

You can also then use the mike on the HPM-70 if you have it clipped to your lapel, and using your bt headphones thru the 3.5mm to bt adapter you mentioned.


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Posted: 2005-11-18 04:47:40
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MacC00l Posts: 2

This is bad news. How dumb.

But lordlupins work around is the most appropriate so it seems.

K750i -> Adapter to 3.5mm -> bluetooth adapter supporting A2DP

Then you'd have a headset which links to the adapter for music and to the K750i directly as hands-free headset.

I hope I got the concept right.

Though I imagine the media-buttons on such headsets would be useless, as the bluetooth adapter cannot send the commands to the phone over the 3.5mm cable, right?

Before buying a seperate bluetooth adapter, I'd get a headset which has it included. Example: http://www.planex.net/product/bluetooth/bt-01hss.htm

Other thing: I just found this on alibaba.com:

See here.
I tried contacting the company but my mail bounced with an error.
Also, on the website it doesn't say anything.
Anyone seen this thing before? I think it looks really good...

[ This Message was edited by: MacC00l on 2005-11-27 17:50 ]
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Posted: 2005-11-27 18:49:18
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soulframe Posts: 225

It looks like these are the only real stereo bluetooth headsets around at the minute. BT 2.0 and AD2P. Hopefully the P990 will be compatible with these and by the time it's released I would like to think the price would be a little cheaper by then, as it's a little pricey at the moment:

http://www.wi-gear.com/products/imuffs/specs.php






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Posted: 2005-11-28 13:31:32
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Muckle_Eck Posts: 5

Well...I can see that adding the dongle to the bottom of the phones will work, but beware!!

If you buy the Itech BlueCon bluetooth audio dongle this will only work with itech bluetooth headphones! I found out to my cost that this is the case.

However.....

I am now using my ipod with the BlueCon II connected to it , together with my Itech BlueBand headset.,...this gives me glorious stereo music!....at the same time my K750i is paired to the headset...and when a call comes in it cuts the ipod off and allows me to have my phone call...at the end of the call the ipod music is restored.

I know it isn't perfect....but better than nothing.,...now what do I do with my Anycom bluetooth headset!!!

Cheers


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Posted: 2005-11-29 17:19:19
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Giles@Cad Posts: 3


I have just bought a pair of iTech Blueband headphones & discovered that the phone won't play music on them even though iTech say their product is compatible with the K750i.
Having read the posts on this thread I know understand why. The K750i does not support A2DP & therefore incapable of streaming stereo music thru its bluetooth stack.
Thank God for forums!
But is the solution "K750i -> Adapter to 3.5mm -> bluetooth adapter supporting A2DP"?
Should I buy a iTech bluetooth audio dongle?

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Posted: 2005-12-11 22:39:07
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