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yes itunes can edit id tags for existing tracks.
rip to 128Kbps and you will have a smaller file with equivelent quality.
Rip to 96Kbps and you will still have a reasonable quality file and even smaller in size. Experiment and see what works best for you.
I myself use 64Kbps ofr most songs, some require 96Kbps to avoid some bad compression artifacts.
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Posted: 2005-11-07 07:41:54
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@max, i find the lack of the activity very annoying...if the Davinci team donīt come with a way to fix this, i might return to k750 firmware in future
I love the w800 media player, but the k750 activity menu is just wonderfull
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Posted: 2005-11-07 11:36:31
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hmmm...
I've been thinking about it, also for the flight mode which is really tempting, but the more I think about it, I really don't want to give up the activity button. I appreciate your thoughts, it confirms what I've been thinking.
I've managed to play with my sis's K750 vodafone with Vodafone Live button in place of the activity button, and I just don't like the lack of consistency in task switching.
Might just have to keep an eye on davinci for the time being.
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Posted: 2005-11-07 12:42:55
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For those who never noticed it (like me until a few weeks ago

) I got 'Windows Media Player 9' and have noticed there is an 'Advanced Tag Editor' in there when u 'Copy to CD or Device',after draggin and droppin the file in u can right click a file to get this option
Btw,I dont know if this is just for mp3,i never tried to edit aac cus they dont play on my mmc's which im still using in my hpr-10 mp3 player.
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Posted: 2005-11-07 13:17:18
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On 2005-11-07 13:17:18, boyi wrote:
Btw,I dont know if this is just for mp3,i never tried to edit aac cus they dont play on my mmc's which im still using in my hpr-10 mp3 player.
wmp dont support aac so i dont think you can edit the tags
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Posted: 2005-11-07 16:54:17
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On 2005-09-21 10:26:38, Arez wrote:
Quote:and in the final results aac is only slightly better than mp3
so?
are you forgeting aac files are way smaller than their mp3 equivalents???
hence if a 128kbs is better, slightly ot not, than a 128kbs, and plus itīs a smaller file, thereīs really no interest using mp3, except for the id tags (k750 doenīt read id tags from aac, yet)
eerrrrrr.... lol
Doesn't 128 kbps means the file weighs well... 128 kilo bits (or 16 Ko) for each second ? Then a 128 kbps AAC is EXACTLY the same size as a 128 kbps MP3, and only sounds slightly better according to blind tests.
Guess I'll stick to MP3. Maybe AAC is better for lower bitrates (96 or 64 kbps) like wma is, but I don't like low bitrates, I usually use MP3 VBR approx. 192 kbps or ogg.
Anyway, does anyone know if the
battery usage is different with different formats ? that might be interesting to know too.
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Posted: 2005-11-07 17:21:43
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most expert agree that aac has the same audio quality as a mp3 50% larger.
So for example, a 128Kbps AAC is as good as a 192Kbps mp3, and a 96Kbps aac as good as a 128Kbps mp3.
Regarding bitrate, you are correct in theory but not in practice. I can tell you this - a FAAC abr AAC track is way smaller (for the same sound quality) as an itunes AAC track of the same bitrate. iTunes is a relatively inefficient codec compared to some others.
So two songs can be the same bitrate and be very different sizes. It's not as simple as you surmise
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Posted: 2005-11-08 07:49:17
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hmm, thanx for the input max_wedge. I searched some more info about AAC, and it seems that if AAC is only slightly better than MP3,
aacPlus v2 might be MUCH better for very low bitrate files (32 or 48kbps). I usually don't like low bitrate and so-called "CD quality", but since I can't buy a new memory stick for my W800i right now, that might be intersting.
so, does k750i/w800i support aacPlus v2 ? or only AAC ?
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Posted: 2005-11-08 21:11:29
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I would like to add to all this:
- it is also between your ears. If you think that you hear some distortion at 128kbps, you need to go to 192kbps even though scientifically speaking one should not be able to hear the difference. If you think you hear it you hear it.
- going from AAC to MP3 (transcoding) will always give some audible distortion
- quality of the headphones is at least as important; the ones includes by SE are pretty good, but as many know Sony's fontopia headphones are by far the best even though they are suspiciously cheap
- it is amazing how different people's norms are; some are ok with aac at 64, others will not go below 192. One has to try for himself and find the balance between space and quality
- the iPod is still the best! Nevertheless if SE could get iTunes licenced the Walkman phone would kill em all.
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Posted: 2005-11-08 21:32:27
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totally agree with Dela, that's why each one should do his own blind tests (foobar2000 allows you to do Blind ABX tests) to see what's best for him.
on some particular sounds, i can hear the difference between 160kbps mp3 and 192kbps, but of course I couldn't tell the difference between 96kbps and 192kbps if I listen to it woth standard earplugs in the subway ^^;
anyway, iPod might be better than SE phones (even if branded "walkman"), but it's not THE best if you compare it with Rio Karma or i-river products (they have better quality sound output, and support ogg format).
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Posted: 2005-11-08 21:56:59
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