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I know that it's off-topic, but I rather like the fact that you include 'Greetings from South Africa' in your posts. Such a wonderful country, I have fond memories of being there.
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[ This Message was edited by: scotsboyuk on 2006-01-30 09:02 ]
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Posted: 2006-01-30 10:01:47
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On 2006-01-30 09:53:18, scotsboyuk wrote:
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On 2006-01-29 08:37:18, absinthebri wrote:
Buddhists tend to believe in 'rebirth', which is something different from reincarnation. Buddhists believe in anatta (the concept of 'no-self') and anicca (the concept of impermanence).
Wiki expalins it quite well:
Buddhist rebirth.
I shall defer to your superior knowledge of Buddhism here since I know you are a Buddhist and as you know I am not. I was using the term 'reincarnation' in its more general sense in my earlier post so your point is well received.
Rebirth is a tricky concept to grasp (I certainly haven't). It is taught, and some Buddhists believe in the concept and some do not. It's not reincarnation as there is no belief in anything tangeable surviving after death; no 'soul' or 'spirit' survives us.. One example used to explain it is that of a candle about to go out. If one lights a new candle with the dying flame is this new flame the same as the old flame? No. Is it a different flame then? No.
As you have mentioned in other posts, who knows what happens when we die? I may be reborn in this realm, or a heaven realm, or a hell realm, or not reborn at all (as in die in the absolute sense - I think nirvana needn't expect me anytime soon!). Buddhists tend to concentrate more on the here and now rather than speculate on what might, or might not, happen. I know this is not a concept alien to you.
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Posted: 2006-01-30 10:22:33
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@absin
Yes Taoism, especially the Tao Te Ching, has a strong focus on the 'here and now' as it were. Religious Taoism incorporates various traditional Chinese beliefs so there is more attention given to gods, spirits, etc there. That isn't to say that Philosophical Taoism prohibts belief in an afterlife or in life after death, it's just that, as far as I am aware, they aren't given as much attention in Philosophical Taoism.
EDIT: This post got me thinking about the question of an afterlife in Taoism and I found the following quote, which I think is useful here:
Quote:How do I know that the love of life is not a delusion? That the dislike of death is not like a young person losing his way and not knowing that he is going home?
The quote is by Chuang Tzu and is from
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[ This Message was edited by: scotsboyuk on 2006-01-30 10:08 ]
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Posted: 2006-01-30 10:33:12
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