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Definitely the SE P990i for me, i wont ever bother touching a nokia phone and a symbian phone at that especially their pathetic s60 operated phones. Ive had the 6680 which was slower than a donkey and absolute crap to be honest, even my 55 yr old mum couldnt stand the phone.
Then i bought the n80, what a terrible pathetic piece of **** again, great features but the crappiest implementation of them. Opening the web browser caused it to crash all the time then theres the build quality. Christ that slider mechanism was shite, my unit felt like it was going to break into 2 lol. Plus it was a brick, felt so uncomfy being in my pocket. So off that went for a refund after 2 days of trying to get used to it.
Now im looking forward to my SE P990i which should be with me tommorrow morning fingers crossed. Yes i know its a big phone as well but that doesnt bother me too much as its an SE product so it will have decent build quality compared to the n80.
Would i go back to nokia??, hmm at the moment no i wouldnt but should they release a phone thats fast and user friendly then perhaps i would. But to be honest, im glad ive gone back to SE...i already have the W810i which my mum uses and is a lovely piece of kit then my new phone, the k800i which is absolute joy to use and the camera is brilliant on it.
Oh btw i read from a review that the p990i camera is much much better than the n93...so go figure eh??
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Posted: 2006-08-14 15:48:15
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On 2006-08-14 11:07:11, etaab wrote:
Called OneStopPhoneShop this morning, because i see the pre-order sign has been removed from the N93 (so i assumed they'd be in stock).
They said another 2-3 weeks till they get the phone !
u just don't know where to look
n93 imo
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Posted: 2006-08-14 16:03:42
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@Spawn - I don't know about your mother but you certainly are a SE fanboy
For you there is only one option - and one option only. Yes, SE do make nice cells but they do have their shares of problems too. To compare the already outdated P990i to a N73/80/93 is not fair towards SE. Unfortunately this is the best what is offered
. Talking about system stability - the P990i is so full of bugs - SE themself are not sure about its launch. The S60 is crappy too but certainly the more mature. For serious work I put my money on WM5 (more pda then cell) the S60 is more cell then Pda - and where does this leave SE's OS ? No where . But then again there will be a handfull of fanboys like you who will pay 600+pound for a P990i and never see a thing wrong with it. Greetings from South Africa. Mario
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Posted: 2006-08-14 18:06:31
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@mario, isn't it obvious their will be SE fans here, incase you hadn't noticed its a SONY ERICSSON FORUM! You are obviously a NOkia fanboy, and is nothing wrong with that if thats your thing...
You said the P990 is already outdated compared to n93/n80 but it was you who started this thread! So what was the point of this thread in the first place?? Just to say how great you think NOkia is??
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Posted: 2006-08-14 19:58:00
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@mario2002
re: WM5
have you ever used WM5 on the HTC Universal? Awful implementation on a UKP600+ device. Very slow for a 520Mhrz CPU device. It is very easy to implement a good OS badly. Symbian 9.1 in telephony terms is ahead of WM5, but WM5 implementations (such as the TyTN) are better for some users that need a PDA in priority to a phone.
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Posted: 2006-08-14 20:10:20
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On 2006-08-14 18:06:31, mario2002 wrote:
@Spawn - I don't know about your mother but you certainly are a SE fanboy
For you there is only one option - and one option only. Yes, SE do make nice cells but they do have their shares of problems too. To compare the already outdated P990i to a N73/80/93 is not fair towards SE. Unfortunately this is the best what is offered
. Talking about system stability - the P990i is so full of bugs - SE themself are not sure about its launch. The S60 is crappy too but certainly the more mature. For serious work I put my money on WM5 (more pda then cell) the S60 is more cell then Pda - and where does this leave SE's OS ? No where . But then again there will be a handfull of fanboys like you who will pay 600+pound for a P990i and never see a thing wrong with it. Greetings from South Africa. Mario
First of all stop being an utter moron but then your from SA so i dont expect anything less. No need to bring my mother into this idiot.
As for being a SE fanboy??, perhaps i am and it doesnt bother me in the slightest only someone like you would find that offensive. But i have given nokia the benefit of the doubt and they havent given me anything to shout home about. Yes they are nice featured phones especially the N series but as i said the implementation of thier features is truly awful.
Granted the P990i might be outdated now with its specs, i take it your gripe is with the fact that is b rather than g WIFI but to be honest that really doesnt bother me. Fact of the matter is that IT WORKS!!!!, whereas the n80...well lets just it did work but i wasnt that impressed with it.
Hmmm so the s60 devices are cell then pda and WM5 devices are pda then cell devices...and where does that leave SE??. I'll tell you where it leaves SE, it leaves them in the top spot where they rightly belong. Look around you how many nokia's do you see around here??...not many...99% have SE phones and its been already posted that SE are top of the pile. But getting back to what i was saying....the SE P990i is a cell firstly then a pda which suits me nicely. Hell it might be full of bugs, my p800 was full of them..same with the p900 and the p910 but you see the difference is that SE acknowledges these bugs and fixes them with REGULAR firmware updates which YOU can do yourself at home..rather than arsing about finding a nokia service centre to get your oh so precious nokia updated firmware wise. Tell me which smartphone that is out there that doesnt have a a few bugs, they all do...some more than others. Heck i have a SE K800i which has a few bugs in it but the thing is that it works and still is fast and responsive unlike the nokias ive had, namely the 6680 and n80...
Yet again the fact that i have spent £600 on a p990i bothers you...why??..its my money and i choose to spend it as i wish and i personally think after weighing up my options that the p990i is the best phone/pda out there on the market. But obviously your too blinded by your ignorance to acknowledge this. So do me and alot of other people a favour, go and do some hard research and i think you will find that even though the p990i has alot of bugs...generally the people who have them are happy. Prime example is the m600i which has quite a few bugs but people like STS and Jah put up with them because you see they realise that SE will fix these bugs one way or another.
Anyways think ive said what ive had to say, to be honest theres plenty of idiots like you around so i dont expect any less from you. But im sorry if you cant afford to buy a p990i...seems to me that your missing out on all the fun and its making you post some utter drivel.
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Posted: 2006-08-14 20:39:18
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At first sorry for mentioning your mom - you did it first thou - actually I miss mine very much since she past away a short while back. I haven't said anything bad at all buddy - I will never do. Trust me on this one. She is the only 'real friend' you always can be sure of till the end -. Now back to the 'big boys' fight (huh I like this) You say 99% of people around you use SE cellphones ? Hmm . . . Should I beleive you? Or you ment 9.9%? As far as I know Se does not even manage to get 7% of total market share because of the f*ck ups they do on a regular basis. And if one looks at the 'smart cell' market, SE rules more like 0.99%
You see I've waiting in anticipation for the P990i for almost a year now and all what SE offered me is a 'development' model with the promis of improvement ! W.T.F. ? And they want me to shell 600quid for it ! Wake up and go get a life SE Fanboy. Sorry for calling you that (I don't call names usually - but I hues is better then moron and idiot) . Greetings for South Africa. Mario
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Posted: 2006-08-15 05:35:08
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Hi Spawn of course 99% of the people here have an SE phone its' an SE forum Duh!and actually i think you may find people actually own quite a few other brands as well. I had used Ericsson and then SE phones exclusively for longer than i can remember until recently, my experience with my last 2 P series phones left me less than satisfied. Yes S60 2nd edition were less than perfect but if you look through the threads here so are the K & W series phones too.
Freedom of choice means we can all choose what we use or don't their really isn't a right or wrong solution but blind faith and support is just plain stupid IMO. I have no desire to pay large sums for a work in progress which is why i decided against the M600i even though i could of got one for £70 less then my current phone. If you or others are happy to pay to be Beta testers that of course is your choice but not mine.
I am currently using an N73 which is an S60 3rd edition device menus and apps open fast, push e-mail with YahooGo (exclusive to some Nokia phones) is excellent easy setup and works flawlessly, other e-mail accounts can also be set up with all the usual features. The Safari based browser is lightning fast and has some very clever navigation tricks so much better than Opera and the screen is excellent. I have had no memory shortages, no reboots to improve performance, no crashes, no need for firmware upgrades tell me which SE models you can say that about then at launch?
Eventually i will come back to SE but never with a newly launched phone unless things change. I look forward to owning a W950 but not until it's been out for a good while and is stable and bug free as the only thing i am missing is a touchscreen although this is slowly not becoming so important any more. I do admire the brand loyalty many here show to SE however misguided that may be IMO.
Your last point re being able to fix bugs via Seus at home and just how many phones die during this process? the OTA updates have been disabled by nearly all the networks and have yet to hear of anyone using this successfully and why should brand new phones need all these updates?. IMO they should not have been launched never mind sold to members of the public as when sold like this that are not fit for purpose and you could very easily demand a full refund which if everyone did would stop manufacturers from takeing the P**s out of you there loyal customers.
This is a forum to discuss phones not launch insults and abuse at each other if you can't accept that others don't agree with your views and opinions then i feel sorry for you.
Marc
PS also i have no need for battery sapping WiFi as can use as much E-mail and web browsing as i like for £7.50pm
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Posted: 2006-08-15 12:20:47
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Sony Ericsson p990 has been released in Pakistan. price in Pakistani rupees is 64000/set (about 1100). we can supply this phone around the world if any1 want to buy. we can give gurantee of our company in England if any1 want to get trust before considering to buy from us.In England u can pay after watching the phone. we have friends there who can assure the delivery of p990 and then u pay. if u need 10 sets of p990 then we are ready to through L.C at sight as well.
HM ABID
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Posted: 2006-08-21 14:57:21
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The one advantage of a P990 is for business use (i.e. you need to write and edit documents on your phone). A big touchscreen would help in this task.
If the above is not the main overriding factor, then N73/93 beats the P990 in every other area. So if you want a phone for entertaintment/games, photos/video and multimedia, forget about the overpriced and outdated P990. Get the N73/93.
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Posted: 2006-08-22 04:12:34
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