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On 2006-08-11 13:04:05, carkitter wrote:
I had problems with my K700i joystick after about a year. It was also quite sharp and uncomfortable to use.
My V800 d-pad is much better.
And no I don't play mobile games or have a 12 hour per day text habit.
The K750 joystick is radically improved over the K700, gauranteed. I owned both phones. The K700 needed cleaning several times, the K750 only needed it after about 10 months. btw, i was being sarcastic about the 12 hour day shit - because some dude posted that he used his joy that much and then bitched that it didn't work so good no more

Well, duh.
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Posted: 2006-08-12 03:53:20
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the joystick is the trade mark i think people hate it for 2 weeks then cant use a Dpad after lol i hated the T68i for about a week then i couldnt live without one i struggle with them now (dpads)
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Posted: 2006-08-12 04:02:41
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On 2006-08-12 03:53:20, max_wedge wrote:
btw, i was being sarcastic about the 12 hour day shit - because some dude posted that he used his joy that much and then bitched that it didn't work so good no more

Well, duh.
Maybe joysticks aren`t designed for 12hr/day use. But D-pads certainly are ...and they cause less strain for the thumb. Which means in terms of durability , D-pads are definitely superior. Besides if SE were to take feedback on its ergonomics they would certainly prefer to hear from harcore(12hr/day) SE users rather than light users. During my entire experience with SE for the past 4 yrs... SE joysticks never performed upto the mark . Yes you maybe right that I overused my joystick phones too much for them to fail . At the same time I overused my d-pad phones too and I didn`t face any problem with them. When my joysticks failed within 2 months of purchase, my d-pads lasted even after 7 months of heavy usage.
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If joystick phones are not suitable for a 12hr/day user, then D-pads certainly are.
It is obvious from your post that you weren`t using ur joystick that much or atleast not as much as I do.
[ This Message was edited by: jingboyx on 2006-08-12 04:50 ]
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Posted: 2006-08-12 05:44:45
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On 2006-08-12 05:44:45, jingboyx wrote:
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On 2006-08-12 03:53:20, max_wedge wrote:
btw, i was being sarcastic about the 12 hour day shit - because some dude posted that he used his joy that much and then bitched that it didn't work so good no more

Well, duh.
Maybe joysticks aren`t designed for 12hr/day use. But D-pads certainly are ...and they cause less strain for the thumb. Which means in terms of durability , D-pads are definitely superior. Besides if SE were to take feedback on its ergonomics they would certainly prefer to hear from harcore(12hr/day) SE users rather than light users.
Not necessarily - the fact is they know guys like you will break their joysticks no matter how hard they try, that's just joysticks for you. They can't win.
Besides, it's laughable to even imagine that SE don't do their market research on this. They don't stumble around blindly hoping people will like their phones. Infact, SE brought out more dpads in response to user feedback, but they still didn't remove the joystick from K series flagship, which means they MUST have had strong feedback in favour of joysticks from the K series demographic, IMHO.
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During my entire experience with SE for the past 4 yrs... SE joysticks never performed upto the mark . Yes you maybe right that I overused my joystick phones too much for them to fail . At the same time I overused my d-pad phones too and I didn`t face any problem with them. When my joysticks failed within 2 months of purchase, my d-pads lasted even after 7 months of heavy usage.
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If joystick phones are not suitable for a 12hr/day user, then D-pads certainly are.
It is obvious from your post that you weren`t using ur joystick that much or atleast not as much as I do.
[ This Message was edited by: jingboyx on 2006-08-12 04:50 ]
I use it a fair bit, about 2 hours a day worth of reasonably heavy joystick use (games, camera functions, messaging, and general menu browsing). 12 hours is significantly more than that though....hardly typical use.
I'm not arguing that a dpad isn't more durable anyway, that's obvious. I'm simply arguing that for some purposes a joystick is a better controller than a dpad. You don't have to agree, that's your perogative - but many people do agree with me and that's why I don't think it would be appropriate of SE to remove the joystick on all models. I don't see it as an either/or argument. Why not keep both, so peeps have a choice?
There are choices for you - why not the W810, it's a nice little phone? Or, the K610. I just don't see the issue I'm afraid.
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Posted: 2006-08-12 17:28:21
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You know you do have a choice to purchase a phone from another manufacturer !!
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Posted: 2006-08-12 17:35:39
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if there is one thing I hope SE never does again, is to have a creaky D-pad like the one on W810...horrid! Never had a problem with SE's joysticks, they are great:)
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Posted: 2006-08-12 18:06:56
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I like the joystick its an al round god design but can someone tel me how to get in and clean the joystick to reomve some of the dust ?
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Posted: 2006-08-12 19:32:12
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My last phone without a joystick was an Ericsson T29s, about five years ago. since then i have had a T610, T630, K700i, and K750i(all of which have it) and have come to love the joystick. i totally disagree!
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Posted: 2006-08-12 23:18:47
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On 2006-08-12 19:32:12, bavlondon2 wrote:
I like the joystick its an al round god design but can someone tel me how to get in and clean the joystick to reomve some of the dust ?
Check out my tutorial:
clean the joystick
In the tutorial is a link to a dismantling guide for the K750 also
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Posted: 2006-08-13 02:17:32
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Residentevil Posts: > 500
Looks like you are outgunned and will have trouble to find any co petitioners.
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Posted: 2006-08-13 03:38:11
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