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@amnesia
I don't see how a warning system would prevent people from hijacking threads though.
@sanjeevjaya
Well said, you're spot on there old boy. No one on this forum is forced to reply to anyone else. Furthermore, if one wants to discuss subjects that one knows are likely to cause arguments then one should be prepared for that. Either accept that arguments, disagreements, etc may occur or don't discuss such subjects.
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Posted: 2006-09-19 16:02:58
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Where exactly do we draw the line of such subjects?do we just ban everything that has even the smallest chance of causeing arguements,I doubt very much that would be a good solution,as that would be compromising the freedoms on what the members choose to post.
A Warning System should be active across the board over the entire forum not just for the non-mobile section as thats just a very small part of esato.
Under the current system the mods may lock or edit a thread if they see trouble,but with a Warning System the Mods can simply give a strike to the offender which should be visible under his/her username..which is the best form of deterant and in no way increases the work load for the mods as they would have put exactly the same amount of effort in locking or editing a topic.
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Posted: 2006-09-19 23:15:21
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On 2006-09-19 23:15:21, axxxr wrote:
Where exactly do we draw the line of such subjects?do we just ban everything that has even the smallest chance of causeing arguements,I doubt very much that would be a good solution,as that would be compromising the freedoms on what the members choose to post.
This all sounds rather melodramatic and really is quite unnecessary. For one thing, the phrase "...compromising the freedoms on what the members choose to post" suggests that we, as members, somehow have a right to post as we wish. We do not. laffen and the moderators set the rules on what we are allowed to post and we have to follow those rules. If a certain topic is seen to be causing trouble it can be banned.
The situation is actually very simple if one uses common sense. If a particular topic keeps causing trouble it can be banned. If a particular member keeps causing trouble he/she can be banned.
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A Warning System should be active across the board over the entire forum not just for the non-mobile section as thats just a very small part of esato.
Under the current system the mods may lock or edit a thread if they see trouble,but with a Warning System the Mods can simply give a strike to the offender which should be visible under his/her username..which is the best form of deterant and in no way increases the work load for the mods as they would have put exactly the same amount of effort in locking or editing a topic.
How exactly will it be a deterant? The moderators will have to inform the community every time they give a warning/ban to explain why someone is getting a mark against there name for it to be a deterant. Otherwise it's just a mark against someone's name and could have been given for anything.
This would mean more work for the moderators in having to post about decisions they take as well as opening up, what has always been a private process, to the entire forum. I daresay that if the moderators thought it was a good idea to share their decisions with the community they would have done so before now.
Even if this were to happen, I am still unsure as to whether it would really be a deterant. After all, the people you mention i.e. those deliberately trying to hijack a thread are unlikely to be detered from doing so by the prospect of getting a mark against their name. The end result would still be the same, the moderators would have to ban those who persist in causing trouble so why give them the extra work of having to explain why someone received a warning?
How would we avoid manipulation of such a system by people looking to goad those with warnings? Would they be given warnings too, which might lead to people goading them and so on?
The present system works well from what I can see. If the moderators felt that it didn't I imagine they would have changed it.
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Posted: 2006-09-20 00:20:46
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For EVERYTHING else . . there's JUST the Private Messages section for 2 or MORE erring members to CONTINUE their: nuclear-bomb-attacks with each other !
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Posted: 2006-09-20 03:08:29
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all I know is that 5 years ago when I was on Neowin, I let it slip by calling someone an 'idiot who can't contain two thoughts in his mind' and I was given a warning.
Seeing that little red dot underneath my avatar pissed me off, but it also made me weary.
Additionally, you fail to see that although a system can work fine, there is always room for improvements. The Admins are people just like us and may not have thought of implementing such a thing.
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Posted: 2006-09-23 19:09:37
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On 2006-09-23 19:09:37, amnesia wrote:
all I know is that 5 years ago when I was on Neowin, I let it slip by calling someone an 'idiot who can't contain two thoughts in his mind' and I was given a warning.
Seeing that little red dot underneath my avatar pissed me off, but it also made me weary.
Additionally, you fail to see that although a system can work fine, there is always room for improvements. The Admins are people just like us and may not have thought of implementing such a thing.
Spot on mate.....It goes to show that a \"Visible\" deterant does work..I've seen it work on a few other forums and the system is very fuctional at weeding out undesirables.
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Posted: 2006-09-23 19:45:20
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