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Sainty Posts: 485

Been reading on other forums and such that the generic p990's are NOT as great quality as the Vodafone ones. Strange but kinda nice to know

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[ This Message was edited by: Sainty on 2006-10-07 11:32 ]
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Posted: 2006-09-29 12:42:26
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aboveconnection Posts: 162

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if u unbrand a fone, your warranty is over and afaik,

we did 1000s of P900/P910 unbranding for many of you folk on here,
i have NEVER had anyone come back to us with issues about insurance.
this will NOT be the case.

Expect the debranding service to be around soon, although dates are TBC.

Hope you enjoy the wait

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Posted: 2006-09-29 15:00:07
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Slider758 Posts: 4

Been lurking on these boards for a while and thought I'd finally contribute. Received my P990 a few days ago and of course my experience is the same as many others that got their phones from Vodafone. Annoyingly the bugs I've encountered have mostly been solved with the latest SE firmware (R7), but the Vodafone handsets are stuck with R5, so I decided to contact Vodafone about this.

The short of it is that Vodafone are aware of the problem, but will not promise any firmware updates at all, it could be a few weeks, months or never. Under no circumstances would they debrand the phone (not surprising). The conversation basically left me with two choices: keep the phone or return it - great!

I also contacted SE and they didn't want anything to do with it - as far as they're concerned they're releasing firmware updates. Vodafone have crippled their handsets and so its up to them to release updates to branded firmware.

I think the P990 is an excellent piece of hardware which has been severely let down in part by the SE software developers must and outright crippled by Vodafone - for no good reason!

As a final note, SE told me that unbranding would void my warranty with Vodafone.

I'm now eagerly waiting for a debranding solution.

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Posted: 2006-10-02 15:31:59
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ekkelon Posts: 13

I have updated my M600i EN version by ZEUS .... and this the screen shot of my M600 ... http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/1227/capture0xz7.gif
After that I have lost the Italian language.
This is the capture screen of an ITA/SWISS version of M600i http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2708/fwm600kl7.png

I need now the .sis file with italian language pack for this news FW version .... Someone know where find it?
Thank you very much.

[ This Message was edited by: ekkelon on 2006-10-09 13:42 ]
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Posted: 2006-10-09 14:41:09
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doublecheese Posts: 145

I experienced this :

if you goto those local phone shops they will flash your phone so good no traces of Vodaphone, O2 etc will remain. However your guarantee will be void.

A friend who lived in UK was visiting us abroad for holidays. He was using a Vodaphone P910i phone, while playing a game on the phone the phone crashed so badly, he had to take the battery out. When he put back on the battery, the phone did not start anymore. So we tried to fix it with SEUS, (until recently SEUS had a REPAIR option which you could fix, but SE removed it later on somehow) because the REPAIR option was cancelled by SE we could not manage to update the phone. So we called SE Istanbul and they said that this phone is Vodaphone branded and they can not help us.

There was two options for us. 1) Wait for him to go back to UK 2) or have the phone flashed at a local second hand phone shop.

So we went to the phone shop, we told the guy at the counter that P910 no longer worked, he told us it would be no problems but since they didn't have any Vodafone Software, they would update the phone with latest Sim Free version and if we did the update that my friend would loose his Voda guarantee blah blah blah... so we agreed and he uploaded the software and P910 started working as unbranded. There was no Voda logo or nothing remaining on the phone....
And he could use the SEUS easily afterwards

This means prpbably the same things will apply to P990's unbranding,

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Posted: 2006-10-09 15:43:24
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cellcorner Posts: 24

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On 2006-09-14 16:05:50, BobaFett wrote:
i do noticed lately in many other threads the unbarnding. just 2 thoughts, for all of u:

if u unbrand a fone, your warranty is over and afaik, if u make any upgrade or unbranding with a non-generic server ( not seus ) u wont be able to flash it later with seus

There are probably ways for a SE technician to notice that the phone has been flashed with non original firmware. Some servers offer original firmware the only purpose of which as I see it is to flash before returning the phone into a service center.

As for the other part of your questions (statement), many tools including remote servers now can change CDA number which is responsible for the SEUS
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Posted: 2006-10-11 05:41:10
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bodgeruk Posts: 11

From my experience with Voda when my p800 was stolen, all those years ago... (And I had to switch back to my beautiful Sony z7 as i'd sold my t68)

Handset insurance works as so:

You call Voda and say your handset was stolen.

They check the last IMEI number registered on your sim card. If it isn't the handset yu bought/upgraded to with voda, no insurance. This is because I used my dad's upgrade to get the p800 then put in my sim.

It cost me £50 to get the p800, mwahahahaaaa. After getting back from hols in China my P990 was similarly cheap. Mwahahahahaaaaa

My P990 is Voda and so I cannot upgrade the firmware withut sending it to a voda service centre. Booohooooo.

I think it would be worth investigating further how Operators use IMEI and CDA numbers.

From my experience and from what I have heard:

IMEI : This is a GUID Globally Unique Identifier to your handset.

- Used by operators to track handsets throughout the network.
- Cross referenced to sim for insurance claims.
- Used by Police and operators to permanently block stolen handsets on all networks in the UK.

CDA : I know little abut this. I believe this identifies the branding status of handsets to SE fr SEUS

- Used by SEUS to identify what F/W needs to be uploaded to a specific Handset.

From this, I can conclude with some certainty that debranding a phne will in no way affect insurance claims for the loss, damage or theft of handsets.
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Posted: 2006-11-03 15:37:41
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kingmobilephone Posts: 86

it's kind of interesting post and I spent quite a bit time on this CDA issue..

funny enough for all DB2020 series SE such as K800i, K610i....even I change the CDA number in the debranding, I still couldn't manage to update my firmware.. so I guess they might somehow combine both CDA and IMEI to confirm which network are u with

But for DB2000 series PDA SE phone such as W950i, P990i or M600i, I have no problem in updating the firmware after I debranded it and change the CDA..

btw, for the warranty, I can assure all that it won't affect it after the warranty, if your phone does have some hardward fault ..., contact the se service centre called ACR logistic .. they won't bother if your phone is BRANDED / debranded orginially, what they are if the hardware fault is human fault...such as water damaged / fall which they don't responsible...if it's not your fault, I can assure they will fix your phone FREE if it's within 12months warranty....I deal with them for the last 3 yrs and they are all reasonable person

http://www.kingmobilephone.co[....]sony-ericsson/m600-debrand.php

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[ This Message was edited by: kingmobilephone on 2007-02-08 20:04 ]
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Posted: 2007-02-08 21:03:05
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seunlock-uk Posts: 294

I would like to interject that I can confirm that SE DEFINATELY use a combination of IMEI and CDA with SEUS, fo DB2020.

So even changing the CDA on a DB2020 makes no difference if you want to upgrade via SEUS it will either kick up an error or rebrand the handset.

This is a new thing that they brought in for the DB2020 models, and is not what happens with any of the rst of the models ie. PDA's.

ALL handsets are updateable through SEUS through debranding, to debranded FW, EXCEPT DB2020.
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Posted: 2007-02-08 21:34:56
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