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Hi Tail,
I am glad at last i am no longer being seen as SE hater and now maybe all the misunderstandings have been cleared up we can all return to having civilised debates once again. We are all never going to all agree all of the time but is that not the point of a forum to debate and discuss the pros an cons of any situation and to respect each others opinions and learn and share from each others knowledge. Again i will repeat i am really very pleased that you now have a device that you are both happy with and deserve.

Marc
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Posted: 2007-02-24 03:17:54
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Thx alot. And maby they can add some more speed to it allsow. If it had the same speed as my N80 has, when i would be really pleased with it
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Posted: 2007-02-24 03:33:30
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On 2007-02-24 03:17:54, Dogmann wrote:
I am glad... all the misunderstandings have been cleared up we can all return to having civilised debates once again. ....and to respect each others opinions and learn and share from each others knowledge.


Very well said. I actually have a high
opinion for your overall knowledge in this area, and find enjoyable reading many of your posts as one can see many interesting things. Even discussion with you was somehow always productive because IMO different opinion give one the opportunity to see thing from other perspective. That's way I was a kind of sad when you decided to quit your posting here (some short time ago):))
I to am very pleased that we found a common language in this case.
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Posted: 2007-02-24 08:20:18
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Hi guys,

first of all: thanks for the warm welcome to this forum. I didn't had the time to answer earliere. I am amazed on the amount of feedback I provoked. To be honest, I could not make to go thru each of it.

Only so far: It seems, that I am not the only one frustrated by this phone. And I think there are some people out there who see want they want to see. This is that what I think if I read sentences like "the phone is superb, it does everything it should do."

It is obviously, that the phone should do other things for those people than for me.

I am a professional in the IT industry and I am fully aware of the differences between phone and OS manufactures. But believe me, in this case (P990i) I am and I want to be only a customer - a user. For me this phone should be a professional device for my daily work. Not a toy, which I a play with. I do not have the time - really - to spent hours and days to work arround issues.

This thing should simply work - like intended. And it does'nt.

The speed, the memory leaks, the reboots, what else, - even with the latest firmware - is absolutely inacceptable.

I have to read ~ 60 - 100 mails per day and - of course - I want to answer them. And I want to do that quickly. Apart form the fact, that synced mails from Lotus Notes are scrambled, I would say, the device is NOT usable to help a project manager to survive the day! Believe me, I tried it and I failed

Relying on the calendar of teh P990i could get me the push out of my job! The sync does not realize rescheduled meetings. Only this bug is a No-Go for professional use!! What shoudl I say to the customer? Oh sorry, my phone didn't realize, that the meeting has been shifted from Wednesday to Tuesday? Or, sorry, I was in Copenhagen, my phone didn't catch, that we meet in Berlin???

This is not fun.

Phones are not a religion for me! I liked SE and I love the P800 and P910! Believe me, I did nearly everything you could do with these phones. The P990i is far, far, far away from that stability and reliability.

I have nothing against SE. I am not interested to fight on emotional level. I am only interesting in facts. And statements like "does everything perfect" are absolutely rediculous. Please define "everything" and "perfect". I am really excited!

I am an Early Adopter so I am a kind of tolerant about announcements, delayed releases, missing stability, bugs, fixes, patches, updates, bugs again... and so on. But in this case (P990i) there are not so many killer functions, which could tolerate such a mess with basis functions, stability and speed.

Maybe my requirements are to high (even if the P910i was very, very close to those), but if you know a phone, which fullfills the following, please let me know immediately:


1. Fast Reading / Wristing 50-150 mails per day (capable to sync with Outlook and Lotus Notes as well as OTA sync (Blackberry et. all.))

2. Realiable Calendar with ~ 5 entries (incl. repeating) per day for 180 days ahaead and 90 days in the past, incl. realiable re-scheduling, moving arroung multiple times, multiple updates to location, etc. Time zone changing without problems.

3. Fast full text access to ~400 contacts with ~ 3- 5 phone number per contact and up to 3 mail addresses (X.400, Lotus Notes, SMTP), incl. using them to send invitations.

4. WLAN 11g, WPA2, Bluetooth (Stereo Headset and seamless sync.), some Navigation features with external BT GPS receiver and available software for the phone like Route66 or TomTom. Fast web browser.

5. Toy features: 2MP Camera, MP3 (incl M3U based http streaming), etc.

And that all with a good UI. I do not mean optical features like fading. I mean usabiliy: Fast, reliable and consistent user interface with appropriate user feedback (e.g. status information, which explains you what the device is doing, if it is sonething doing).

Best regards and thanks again,

moobekk

P.S.: Please excuse my bad English, I am German And by the way, you guys in UK make so nice music, just listening to Kaiser Chiefs, Keane and Bloc Party - very nice!

P.P.S.: For the future phone let us make us all the functional requirements, Steve Jobs/Frog Design the UI design, the English the entertainment, music and humor feedback, the Danish, French, Italian the outerior design, the Germans or Swiss the engineering and the Japanese the manufacturing. What do you think?

... upps forgot: The U.S. the marketing.

Sorry, if I forgot some nations - I do not want to discriminate - I am European ... or maybe cosmopolitan

Take care.


[ This Message was edited by: moobekk on 2007-03-28 02:39 ]
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Posted: 2007-03-28 03:15:27
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everybody seems to complain about se releasing a not finished product, but 6months earlier everbody complained about how long it took... so what are you actually complaining about?? you want them to use more time or release the phone so that you on that time could get happy??
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Posted: 2007-03-28 03:49:57
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@dogmann


You are not a SE hater!!!!!
You are talking the truth, those who cannot see that they spent a lot of money on a piece of crap are only lying to themselves to comfort their poor minds that they wasted money on this phone.


I am still waiting for someone to buy my P990 so far everyone laughs at me..

As I said from my last post ESATO forums ARE BIASED TO SE..........
TAKE NOTE THAT A LOT PPL ON OTHER FORUMS SAID SO TOOO!!!!!!!!!!!


I wonder how SE paid to have this site upp?

Maybe one p990 as payment????
HAHAHAH
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Posted: 2007-03-28 05:04:21
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If I may divert from SE for one second:

I for one can attest to this as the battery life on the N80 is terrible (even the Nokia authorized agent mentioned this to me). My N80 (with the latest firmware) can get slow at times, and the keyboard is a bit too cramped for my fingers; but it has almost all the features that I would ever want in a phone, in a compact form -- which is why I use it (and put up with its sorry battery life). Shame Nokia can't come up with a bigger battery for it, maybe they can't find one to fit in the case?

I find that the phone is slowest when it is [a] first booted up [b] you just exit from a "heavy" application like Truphone, Gizmo or a game [c] after you have done browsing the Internet.

Also, sometimes I would get no notification that a call has come in, only to find a missed call alert. These are all problems I have accepted because the phone's overall features make up for these small glitches. I realize that because I use the phone for more than just talking (synchronizing emails, voip calls, web browsing, the occasional sega game).




If you are not partial to SE, then you should look at a Windows Mobile device, as they are designed more for business use. Something like the Motorola Q with its full keyboard.

I would recommend the E61i, but the native calendar support is not something to smile about. Its quite simplistic. The other thing I would suggest is that you hold out for E90 (the new communicator), but again, I fear you will need to invest in some third party apps for your calendering requirements.

From my experience, Windows Mobile based devices fit your requirements nicely.

I don't want to get into the P990 "debate" since it seems its more emotions that are running the show rather than facts; but SE should be grateful they have such a loyal fan base
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Posted: 2007-03-28 09:06:36
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Does everyone have these problems?
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Posted: 2007-03-28 10:00:41
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No i dont have those horrible problems thought i am on my R7 FW. thats why i am not upgrading to R9. i think what the to go that firm ware? any suggestion?

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Posted: 2007-03-28 11:30:52
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I fully understand why people who have owned, or still own a p990 get pissed off with SE. And if anything like me, get even more annoyed with their particular vendor (Orange and shite).

What I fail to understand is why people seem to want to bash SE and specifically the P990, when they have never owned it. They are Nokia fans, but want to some how gloat and infer that you made a mistake by buying the P990. I got close to buying a Nokia while I was waiting for the P990 to be released in the UK, but I didn't like the menu - I know that within a week I'd have been on top of it - but I just didn't like it. I know that this kind of Nokia insolence could get me burned at the stake it some quarters, but at the end of the day, it's my choice. Just like it’s your choice and preference to buy a Nokia.

to draw a parallel, being a fully sane person, (IMHO) I know I should buy a Mac. (An Apple, not a Big) A nice stable Unix core, works brilliantly etc etc, but I still run Microsoft Os's. Why??? Because I can't be arsed to change, I know the work around’s and it gives me something to complain about on a daily basis! Which lets face it, I'm British, it's what I get out of bed in the morning to do!!!

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Posted: 2007-03-29 15:25:32
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