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Yes you can now, with the newist iPods (not sure about on a pc but on a mac it does)
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Posted: 2007-04-12 12:29:15
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FYI: to all reader of this forum

A2DP IS HAZZAROUS TO OUR HEALTH

please search more fact about it and i find it as disadvantage

thank you thank you
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Posted: 2007-04-12 13:09:39
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If only people would get their facts straight before posting this stuff...

iTunes. Only freakin' compatible with iTunes. Never liked it, probably never will. Why is it that other media players can work with any software under the sun, but with the ipod, one must use itunes or some other "hack" (ie, if you are running Linux). Also the fact that the music is DRM laced doesn't sit well with me (although I am quite aware of ways around the DRM issue).

It's true, the iPod only works with iTunes for media. (For carrying files around, like a thumb drive, it's a simple drag'n'drop.) I agree this is a negative.

But iTunes itself is amazingly powerful and easy to use. No one can deny that.

As for DRM, that only applies to iTunes-purchased content. Your own ripped CDs are DRM-free. Ditto for your own converted movies.

Portability/usability. You cannot use your ipod as a backup device for your music. If you have enough music + movies to fill an 80 GB iPod; you would probably think that should something happen to your computer, you would be able to retrieve those back. Nope. Can't do -- unless you use some other third party "hack". Not true with other players.

No longer the case in iTunes 7+.

No easy way to share music with others. Have two people with iPods? Can't share the music. Hell, even the Zune can do that.

But the Zune locks up that shared music after 3 days, no?

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The big advantage to the iPod is the seamless PC synchronization with iTunes. The 2nd biggest is playlist creation, including "smart" playlists.

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Posted: 2007-04-12 19:17:47
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Chilli, I appreciate your concern, but I'd be much happier if you could talk to the idiot pedestrians who continually throw themselves directly into my path in an attempt to commit huru kuri on my handlebars...

This is the true danger I deal with everyday. Even on dedicated bike paths pedestrians don't seem capable of looking where they are going (or understanding the simple concept of a symbol of a pedestrian with a cross through it ie: No Pedestrians). Considering they are on a BIKE ONLY path you'd think they'd atleast maintain an awareness of where they are, afterall it's not fun to be run into by a cyclist travelling at 20Kmh (for the pedestrian or the cyclist).

btw, I use in ear (hpm-70) plugs and I've been riding for many years (with phones and before that mp3 players, minidisc, cassettes etc) and have never had an issue. It's simple, you maintain an awareness of your environment. Even deaf people can ride bicycles safely, and I can atleast hear car horns, traffic noises etc, so I feel quite safe.

Appreciate your concern though buddy, but you don't have to worry about me


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Posted: 2007-04-13 00:27:38
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my main beef with all in one is that if something goes wrong, you're SOL until you get it replaced/fixed!
I don't think a phone will replace my ipod anytime soon since it's a 2nd Generation ipod with upgraded battery that gives me 30+ hours of playback.. I charge it one a week and it handles all of my commutte.
I got a lifedrive (big mistake) hoping that it could replace my laptop and use it to watch movies on the road but I have to send it in for repairs every 3 months or so..
If it was ll in one, I'd be stuck with backups of everything.
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Posted: 2007-04-13 05:15:01
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not necessarily. If you have a backup multi-media phone then it's okay
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Posted: 2007-04-14 04:14:40
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I surely can, but I don't want this to turn into a iTunes thread.
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Posted: 2007-04-14 10:55:19
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It's been weeks since I ditched my iPod and have come to rely solely upon my W810. This works well, well enough that I even bought a SIM-free W300 as a backup device

Really, I only miss three things from my iPod:


I can't copy my iTunes playlists onto my phones. Everytime I change the music on the phone's memory card, I have to manually recreate the playlists (on the phone, there's no external way to do this).
No way to control a phone from my car stereo. Car manufacturers, VW included (I have a 4th-gen Golf GTI and a New Beetle), offer factory iPod integration that provides power, sound, and control over a single wire. Aftermarket radios have had this for years.
Using headphones with an HPM-70 or HPM-82 makes for a tangled mess of wires. The iPod had its own 3.5mm stereo minijack.


(Give me a W810 with QVGA, 3G, GPS, and iTunes integration, and I would have the perfect all-in-one device )

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Posted: 2007-04-18 22:27:24
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with my w810 theres no need for me to get an ipod..i mean...Why handle with two devices when only one can do both jobs!! less stuff to carry on!
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Posted: 2007-04-20 05:24:50
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I got a W810 and P990, however I feel the the magebass on the P990 is really lame, its overall music quality is good, but megabass is really lame, especially after I modded my W810 with Toshura's acoustic drivers, the sound quality and megabass is much much better. Also, I hardly even use more than 2gigs for my songs, if I have more than that, i find myself putting boring songs on it, so its no use, and I don't know about you guys, but i'm addicted to bass, so until apple comes out with something better than sony's bass, I aint switching

[ This Message was edited by: mobilemodman on 2007-04-20 05:20 ]
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Posted: 2007-04-20 06:18:36
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