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Nipsen Posts: > 500

... Isn't it fair to just say.. be careful with the purchase, and try it on beforehand, to make sure the unit works well, and in the way you expect it to? You're not buying two by fours, either.
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Posted: 2007-09-10 14:01:36
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mib1800 Posts: > 500


On 2007-09-10 12:20:18, myth® wrote:
@mib

Thanks for your efforts to enlighten us on facts, but we are all aware that these are not global stats, but only those of one reseller, who's shared his experience with us.

But these figures seem very realistic to me and I'm sure that the global stats are not much different.

As for the figures you have mentioned in your post, we thank you for sharing your private stats with us



"My figure and the global stats are not much difference either. Want proof? Ok no problem here it is. I am a phone reseller also. I have sold three P1i and 1 were return due to camera fault, 1 were returned because buyer exchanged it for a more expensive N95. So my P1i return rate is 66%. And I have also sold 1000 N95 and 60 were returned due to user not satisfied with wobbly slider and other problems. N95 return rate is therefore 6%"

So IF you believe the other stat to be true, then you have NO choice but to believe mine is also true. . .



P.S. I am not a SE fanboy, btw, but I can't tolerate the cheap, crappy, wobbling, toy-like feeling of a device in my hands, especially if I have to spend hard earned $$$ for it. Not even if it would perform every task @ light speed.



I am not a Nokia fanboy btw I cant tolerate over-priced cum obsoleted technology phones if I have to spend my hard earned $$$ for it.

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Posted: 2007-09-10 14:32:56
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mode Posts: > 500

Like I said, very sad.
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Posted: 2007-09-10 15:53:46
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jakontil Posts: > 500

unless the N95 8GB version uses the same GPS chip as on 6110 navigator, it'd be useless on the GPS point of view.

the wise thing to do is to wait until both products come to live, and we all might want to decide

judging on anything that is unavailable, may make some children cry aloud
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Posted: 2007-09-10 16:29:43
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QVGA Posts: > 500


On 2007-09-10 16:29:43, jakontil wrote:
unless the N95 8GB version uses the same GPS chip as on 6110 navigator, it'd be useless on the GPS point of view.

the wise thing to do is to wait until both products come to live, and we all might want to decide

judging on anything that is unavailable, may make some children cry aloud

I dont know how the availability of W960 will change anything. We all know it runs on the exact same platform as P990/W950 with a 3.2MP camera attached to it, which again is similar to P1. So its fair to judge the W960
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Posted: 2007-09-10 17:09:41
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koto Posts: > 500

I had the oportunity to play with N95 a few days ago. It is without doubt very good smartphone. What I really liked is the quality of video and speed of OS, specially message app (new message for example) and contact app.
What I didnt like at all is its built quality. I cant believe how bad it is. It feels like a toy that would be broken if I press it a bit harder. Also the owner reported very poor batery life which I didnt have enough time to test. I hope the new N95 8 gb will improve those things.
As for me I am waiting the new P1 (should get it 15 days ago). Now that I played with N95 I know that no touch screen-qwerty phones are absolutely not for me, but anyway N95 is (without taking built quality and battery life into consideration) a great smartphone.
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Posted: 2007-09-10 17:35:18
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mario2004 Posts: > 500

@koto don't fool yourself. If you want a decent, useful touch screen device, have a look at the HTC lineup The Wm6 OS is gaining momentum in leap and bounds. It will be really interesting to see if Nokia will take any 'action', or just continue 'sitting and waiting' . The Iphone is a 'storm in a teacup' (I don't even bother to mention the failed attempt of SE with their P990i series)
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Posted: 2007-09-10 21:25:19
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Nipsen Posts: > 500


On 2007-09-10 21:25:19, mario2004 wrote:
@koto don't fool yourself. (...) The Wm6 OS is gaining momentum in leap and bounds.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves. We'll know Wm6 is on the right track when we have the first wm- worm knocking out everyone with a messenger. But until then it's just a pr- jippo, yeah?
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Posted: 2007-09-10 21:42:36
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borisisinvin Posts: 175

I found a Sony Style store that had the P1 on disply today! I went to a mall about tem minutes from my place expecting to find a "Nokia Experience" store but it wasn't there (Nokia's site said they had one there too!)! Instead, after looking through the whole mall I found a Sony Style store and had some time to play around with the P1 and all of the other new Walkman phones! The build quality on the P1 is excellent (it felt very solid and well constructed in my hand!)! It's also very small, compared to what I thought it would be in my head after looking at all of the photos online! It's not much bigger than my W850i, nice! I noticed the green tinge everyone's been talking about right away when I turned on the camera on too!... A shame really. Otherwise, I was very impressed! I did notice that it was a bit slow switching apps too. From the main menu I went to the text messages folder, and then back to the main menu. Then I went to the videos folder, and back to the main menu screen. Finally, from the main menu I went to the games folder. They all took a few seconds to switch from the main menu screen, almost like the phone was thinking about it first.... That was a little disappointing too, what with the increase in RAM and faster processor.... Is it really that slow doing everything on a regular basis P1 owners? Anyways, a little bummed about the lack of a Nokia store I made my way towards the exit when I noticed a cellphone shop out of the corner of my eye, and poked my head in. They had both the P1 and old N95 for sale (for about $940 and $1240 USD, respectively! Robbery, I know. they had the P1 on sale for $600 in the Sony store too!) and promptly asked the salesman to take them both out of the sales case, so I could compare them to each other! I have to say, the N95 was shorter and thinner (width wise), but fatter than the P1. The N95 was WAY WAY WAY smaller than I anticipated it would be, and that came as a total surprise! Also of note were how really cheap it felt, like everyone else has said it is (will the forthcoming 8GB version be constructed better?)! Surprising to say the least. Oh, and I noticed that the N95 has no lanyard loop too! What gives Nokia?!? Anyways, I'm definitley feeling the W960 a little more after seeing both the P1 and N95 in person. Oh, and I had a chance to play with this little aluminum triangular stereo speaker set for Walkman's that sounded incredible.... I'm so going to get that too!

[ This Message was edited by: borisisinvin on 2007-09-11 06:07 ]
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Posted: 2007-09-11 07:01:33
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G00gler Posts: 49


On 2007-09-11 07:01:33, borisisinvin wrote:
... They all took a few seconds to switch from the main menu screen, almost like the phone was thinking about it first.... That was a little disappointing too, what with the increase in RAM and faster processor....


I think the point of the extra RAM would be that you don't have to close any applications. The first time you start them they will take a few seconds to open, but after that it should be much faster since they will already be in memory. P1i owners correct me if I am wrong.

About the processor I don't think it is a faster processor. It is the same one SE has used before as far as I know.
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Posted: 2007-09-11 08:34:25
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